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Blue Moon Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 2488 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Julie, I'm so sorry you've had such an awful experience wth your penpal friend. People who get easily offended tend to have a lot resentment/unforgiveness built up over the years. It causes them to be embittered, feeling the need to judge others in order to feel superior & to justify their own hyper critical spirit. She seems to have done is so long that she is unaware of what she is doing.
Another thing too, her expectation of you acting more excited than you were & then her resulting disappointment comes I think from someone who deep down does not like herself. She had hopes that you were going to fill her souls emptiness. But no one can do that. Only God can repair her soul. Jesus says judge not lest ye be judged. By judging you she effectively judged herself by pushing a kind and wonderful friend out of her life. Your light may have been a threat to her too.
At any rate, you are right, she needs prayer. If she ever were to understand & become aware of what she was doing, she could put a stop to her negative thinking. There is always hope. But you were right to let her go. No sense enabling her & feeding her demons. _________________ Laurie
It behooves one to sense God as dwelling within each of us, rather than as some distant entity, far above and seemingly beyond our reach. |
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FairyTale Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 848
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:53 am Post subject: |
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A MEN BLUE MOON! _________________ HOTT DAWG! - FairyTale! |
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MaryInTheMorning Site Admin

Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 3290 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Rainbow Light wrote: | You are both very special loving hearts and spirits and send lots of Love Bubbles to two Earth angels in human form! |
From one Earth angel to another, my heart thanks you so much for your kind and loving words my dear friend!!
Sweet Julie Sharon Rose I cannot believe that Marilyn had the nerve to say that SHE would give YOU another chance and not even apologize for the way she has treated you and the hurtful things she has said to you!! I am so verry sorry that she did that hon for you didn't deserve that either.
| juliepresleyfan wrote: | | take heart mary in the morning , these people do to us only what we let em do |
To quote our dear Elvis"ain't that the damn truth!!" You are so right my sweet friend in that it definitely is time to gather ourselves up and not let people treat us in this disrespectful manner anymore because like you so beautifully said we are all so very special in God's eyes!! Here's to all of you my sweet angels who are all so very special in my eyes too!!  |
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Di moderator

Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 530 Location: US
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Julie:
Just read your last post and so glad to see you are moving on. Sometimes you meet people you cannot or ever will be able to understand and than you meet wonderful people like those on this forum.
Stay true to yourself.
Love,
Di _________________ I believe the key to happiness is: someone to love, something to do, and something to look forward to. Elvis Presley |
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juliepresleyfan Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 671 Location: Basildon Essex England
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Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: hi all |
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i took the rebel penpal back, fely sorry for her , wished i had not now, my senses are filling with anger about her , as she destroyed my faith in her totally.
i seem to keep texting as she asked me but , after about 6 or more she might ans one and all she says, is her and gary ok can only text and send odd card, well i think im just about ready to explode , what with this hot weather i think it will be a mighty fireball too lol, making me feel ill, my face feels pumped around my nose.
i know you all say im a lovely person an all , but my feelings towards marilyn are ones of frustration and hurt, she destroyed all that was good in our friendship, and i cant get my spirit over it, god knows ive tried , but im feeling like giving her a blast of my thoughts, she wants to explain about the visit and how she felt, but i feel it will be blah blah youre to blame and so on, i cant take any more negativity from her i really cant, i invested a few years on this person and learnt to trust her, even dropped my security guard spiritually wise , no not financial not that daft ladies lol
and she has had all the say, i even think she may have been lying or should i say exagerating about her eyes.
tell me what you think id value your oppinions please ladies,
well she says she cant write a letter no more to nobody due to her eyes being tired , but that she can text on a mobile phone, or cell phone as you know it usa lol, and she can send odd card, but im thinking would not the humble but small mobile be worse for tired eyes as in eyestrain, is it not smaller so therefor harder to see, so youd have to look closer at it to read ergo making bad eyes worse, i think she is full of appus crapus dont you, i know everything affects my occulars eyes i mean, even pc after a while makes em water , they are allways watering.
and when i ask how her other pals are taking it she never answers , no probabley because its a lie and she still writing to them .
what should i do , carry on texting and getting no replies , and when i do she answers none of my ordinary quearies , or dump her sorry ass where the sun dont shine ladies, what should i do elvis lol
any answers anyone, i want to do right thing, i should not give in to anger making me worse than her should i, but maintain my dignity.
for what thats worth .
but i feel so hurt at her indifferance to my emotions and feelings, thats a crime against humanity in my book and friendship which means a lot to me .
i feel like hitting back but i feel i cant , dont wanna be like her in any way.
am i just stupid gals , just tell me to shut up maybe, you dont want me whining when youve far worse to contend with than me im sorry.
but my heart feels so injured , just thought youd understand.
i read this somewhere forgive if i get it wrong wont you
A FRIEND IS SOMEONE WHO TAKES YOUR WORRIES AND SADNESS
AND SIFTS THROUGH THEM, SORTING INTO THE CHAFF AND GRAIN
AND THEN GIVES YOU BACK THE GOOD BITS WITHOUT PASSING JUDGEMENT, AND WITH EMPATHY SOOTHES YOUR SOUL
i know i got it wrong but thats the jist of it, basically it means friends listen to you, then tell you with out judgement what you need to hear
or words to that effect think its a indian saying anyone know it i love indians they are so spiritual fair to the earth and humanity , we can learn a lot from them i feel
anyway luv ya julie _________________ Julie Sharon Rose |
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Amanda Viola Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 4265 Location: Spain
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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Dear Julie-Sharon Rose,
I'm not going to judge that lady, nor you. I feel to try to look for the blame takes us nowhere. We are ALL co-responsables of everything we live... and it's a great thing, may we be aware of it or not!
What matters now is to get a way to calm down and soothe these emotions... First, know that the energy rolling now in the planet IGNITES all our emotional circuits, even those that were not active anymore. This failure in the understanding between that lady and you, has been the trigger for you to connect with old emotions of not being important to others, of being put aside, etc... In resume, of not being loved enough. (Many have felt this way when a child or a kid, the first: myself).
Why that feeling? Because WE humans, ARE BEINGS OF LOVE. The no-LOVE impacts we receive when we come to this half-Light reality hits the most sensible area of all our Being, and we are not ready to take them lighly. We register them in fire in our circuits. The pain felt, becomes anger, but we hide and hold back it, 'cause as a child, we don't haave power enough to easily express that anger.
This is the anger you are feeling now, Julie. It's an old one repressed and covered by layers and layers of disguise. You may be happy it is RELEASED at last, so you can let it go...
I didn't mean to become personal, but that dynamic is being produced right now in millions of persons around the world. I felt like coming into it as a way to prevent an excess of suffering.
So, if I was you, I would play some gospel from Elvis -that connects us to higher emotions- and would say good bye to part of the past, represented in that pen-pal. Your heart seeks to be able to express true Love and you'll be guided to find its resonance somewhere else. Because YOU ARE LOVE.  _________________ Amanda Viola
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Blue Moon Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 2488 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:33 am Post subject: |
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Julie, Amanda always has wise words of wisdom. I would just like to add that probably your penpal friend was herself illtreated at one or more times by a person or persons in her distant past. She likely has held on to the anger and resentment toward those people, casuing to be the bitter judgemental person she is today. She may not even realize what's going on with her. At any rate, I think you will be happiest if you do not hold on to your anger and resentment toward her. Let it go, and if you have trouble, ask God to help you to forgive her. This doesn't mean that you have to be her doormat and allow her to continue to manipulate you. Be strong, do not judge her, & yet do not receive the negative pull from her. It may be best for you to completely let go of her if you find that you are continually being upset, but that's up to you.
As long as you resent her, you will feel the need to overcompensate & give into her manipulations.
I had a similar situation with a friend of mine, a long time friend. She got easily offended over an email I sent & thought I was attacking her when I was not. Not even close! But she chose to see what I wrote in a negative light. She then cut off contact with me as a form of manipulation, assuming I'd come crawling back with an apology, as I'd done in previous times when she'd get offended over the smallest things. She'd blow things way way out of proportion. So I realized this time I had to let her go. It was not easy at first, and I had to battle anger & resentment, but God helped me to let the anger & resentment go & yet also to let her go. I knew I had to do it, as the friendship had become an unhealthy one. At the same time, I felt it important to try and not judge her. Something happened in her distant past to which she is still holding bitterness, giving her a critical spirit, and I realized I was not helping me or her any by enabling & feeding that spirit. _________________ Laurie
It behooves one to sense God as dwelling within each of us, rather than as some distant entity, far above and seemingly beyond our reach. |
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Amanda Viola Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 4265 Location: Spain
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | As long as you resent her, you will feel the need to overcompensate & give into her manipulations. |
This one above Sarena, is quite a remarcable and wise commentary! It speaks of a dynamic very often present in people that has to learn to set limits to the others.
A similar circumstance has happened to me the last months, with a friend of mine. I, too, had to let her go, as do not create a dependant relationship: that of me paying attention to her negative demands of attention. She invaded my limits while my mother was ill the last days of her life -when the priority was my mother, not her- and I had to STOP her. She could not stand it, because I was quite clear marking the limit, and she has dropped our friendship. I hope she will be able to hold unto LOVE towards herself -which is the rooth of the question- and put the fear to not be loved aside. _________________ Amanda Viola
"LOVE is what it's all about". |
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Blue Moon Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 2488 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | As long as you resent her, you will feel the need to overcompensate & give into her manipulations. |
Just to comment further on my quote here -- I came to understand this from listening to Roy Masters speak on the dynamics of relationships. Very wise man.
Anyhow, I have found the above quote to be absolutely true. I have seen it happen in my own life. I had a friend, different than the one I mentioned above, who moved out of town. She & I kept up email communication for awhile; then she suddenly dropped me for no obvious reason. She may have been too busy or whatever, as her life did become busier, but it would have been nice for her to at least say she didn't have the time or whatever. I'm not even sure of the real reason actually. Regardless, I found myself resenting her. Then instead of letting her go, I'd periodically email her even though I knew I'd never get a response. Then I thought well why don't I call her. But I never did because I realized what was happening. My own resentment of her was drawing me back to her. And resentment is really just a quiet form of unforgiveness & judgement.
Then too, I got to thinking -- why would I want to keep the friendship going anyway? Our engery paths have completely diverged. She has a very black & white religiously rigid view of the world. When I told her of my Elvis experience, she said I was into idolotry. Then one time about 5 years ago I bought some expensive cards to help improve my psychic abilities. These were not Tarot cards. They were simply cards of various places & things, hidden in white envelopes. The idea was to try & draw what I'd think I "see" in each one (using my 3rd eye) w/o actually looking at the picture until I was done drawing. It was training for Remote Viewing actually. Anyhow, she said it was evil, occult stuff & warned I ought to throw it away. And, not trusting my own instincts then, I went by what she said & threw them out. Now I really regret having done it. Live & learn I guess. So, back to my point, if she wanted to cut off communication, I should gladly oblige w/o any resentment. She & I are on different energy paths now, so I should joyfully go with the flow!!!
PS I did not do very well with those cards. The only one I got exactly right on the money was one which was a picture of a lighthouse. I love lighthouses, have pictures of them on the walls of my apartment, and I lvoe going to visit them on the rare occassion I'm visiting the coast. So it was obvious why I got that one right. I had an emotional connection with the picture, so the 3rd eye link was much stronger. _________________ Laurie
It behooves one to sense God as dwelling within each of us, rather than as some distant entity, far above and seemingly beyond our reach. |
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Amanda Viola Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 4265 Location: Spain
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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I just wish to make right a mistake I did in my last post:
I referred my answer as to a "Sarena"'s comment, when it was really LAURIE the one that posted.
Sorry! _________________ Amanda Viola
"LOVE is what it's all about". |
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juliepresleyfan Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 671 Location: Basildon Essex England
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: thanks ladies |
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i do understand i think what youre tryi ng to tell me, but i was not to blame as she said i was i did nothing wrong.
marilyn was raped as a young girl by someone on her way home from school, which resulted in a baby which she gave up after a while, and interfered with i think by someone she knew bit later in life.
she says her parents did not really care much for her .
i do know she may be acting like this partly down to deeop seated old hurts, but that was both times a man , and not a friend.
perhaps she feels not cared for by her parents, maybe they both found it an unsettling experience that their beloved daughter was assaulted in this way, and treated her differently.
i know what your saying , but im so sorry i cant help but feel betrayed by this person, and put a lot of my trust in her , and feel she was wrong to do this to me, making up wrongs is not very christion of her was it.
i have made many allowances for her attitude like not saying anything and keeping my feelings quiet,
i had really thought id found another best mate like our own dear sue, but thats why im upset , i have been indeed used as a scapegoat of sorts.
what then do i do now, she has since insulted my poor mum by text, then wished me happy birthday in the next text huh ?
we have since stopped communication.
then yesterday marilyn sent me this sad little 3 word text , saying WILL MISS YOU, am i to take this as i want you back.
i dont think i can go back now as the damage she done to my spirit has wreaked its havoc, and im no persons emotional punchbag.
believe me.
i felt incredibly sorry for her but cant go back to that no more , its happened twice and she still hates me and resents the hell out of me still, i cant take her on again untill i knew that resentment had passed and she took responsibilty as i would do, and have recently when naomal caught a email in which i had a little grumble about him, but i stood up for it and he has forgiven me .
so me and my mum are no longer answering her , i feel she will oneday realise i did nothing wrong that day i hope, but it will be too late for us as friends.
i told you i was bullied as a child and it left me feeling helpless and hopeless so i know thoughts of emotions believe me, but i vowed never to let anyone do that to me again, and she tried to do that,
are you saying i should have taken her back again knowing how she feels about me, im sorry ladies but i cannot, she is in the past and must live with her mistake now.
i took her back once but twice no way.
i have no need for friends who are toxic to me, and only want positive things in my life.
luv julie _________________ Julie Sharon Rose |
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juliepresleyfan Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 671 Location: Basildon Essex England
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 12:18 pm Post subject: hi |
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ive allso been having nightmares in which a woman dressed in black has been after me trying to take me over , ive run from her but she is always behind me, and i can feel her pulling .
i wish i could not feel sympathy for marilyn but when i read the text WILL MISS YOU , i almost cried with sadness, and fellt as tho i was going to make same mistake of taking her back again.
she was one of my best friends , so thats why i feel anger when she hurt me emotionally , i realised all the good i did for her was totally wasted.
if i ever got a double or two of something elvisy i often gave one to her feeling really good i had shared one of my precious things with her, i thought she had really appreciated the gesture but maybe not i dont know.
i always felt kind of motherly towards her in a way, felt i could help soothe her past with my kindness, even tho she was older than me , but she felt like she was my boss or something, like i had to be told what to do and i was like her child or something, but that she was maybe punishing me for something someone else had done .
her family most of them wont have much to do with her now, i can understand she was a bit shall i say high maintenance in a critical way.
she was punishing me for what she feels someone else done, rejection, in her mind , she made it sound like i had rejected her, did not value her enough but i have always told her i valued her highly.
perhaps she is afraid as we got so close , and the fear of rejection frightens her so she got rid of me in the only way she knew how,
incase i rejected her in some way but i would never have done that.
the way she is acting is somewhat the way a child acts, my mum went as far as saying she was childish, i dont think we can fight sychological emotions like that would not know how, she is like a child in some ways.
i have child like qualities in me , but i try to never be childish, but the buliied child in the adult still comes to the surfice, even in me now and then, if someone hurts me that way , its like the bullying all over again
and i sometimes feel like im still looking through that childs eyes.
even tho im a adult and act as i should do, as an adult does, i hate to feel someone is trying to control me, ive always let people get away with it in the past , i cant help but think i have similar traits to poor ELVIS , dont laugh lol, i just havent got his money beauty and talent , i believe there are only so many types of soul in heaven , so duplicate types are stored in different types of people but that they are essentially the same .
so i maybe share the same model number as evis tee hee, we have so many similarities i recognise myself in some of them lol
there are lots of us that share that type i think, i wont list them tho as you might laugh , understandibley so .
that i feel is why i was inexstricibley drawn to him maybe, yes i know crap spelling lol
luv ju _________________ Julie Sharon Rose |
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Blue Moon Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 2488 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:04 am Post subject: |
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No, Julie, I am not at all saying you should take her back. There is no need to keep a toxic relationship going. If she is hurting you one minute, then manipulating you with compliments the next, you are like a puppet on a string in her hands, and you will no doubt be in continual emotional turmoil. She needs to face her own demons first, so you don't get asaulted by them as well.
I know you are understandably hurt. All I was saying is that as long as you remain angry & resentful toward her, you will be pulled back to her. It is a strange king of relationship dynamic that happens which most do not even realize exists. You will actually find it more difficult to end your friendship with her as you hold on to anger. The less you allow her to upset you, the easier it will be for you to let her go. _________________ Laurie
It behooves one to sense God as dwelling within each of us, rather than as some distant entity, far above and seemingly beyond our reach. |
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juliepresleyfan Jewel in the Lotus

Joined: 16 Apr 2006 Posts: 671 Location: Basildon Essex England
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:12 am Post subject: im sorry if i seemed negative |
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im sorry laurie my negativity was in no way directed towards you , please dont think that, i have understood all you say and can agree.
ive already told marilyn before we busted up i dont hate her .
i just hate what she did, ive ordered myself a book which i feel might help, louise hay you can heal your life , from amazon, and allso her affirmation cards too, sounded good so i was naughty lol
oh well , as long as i dont get too much,
dear sue sent me a birthday gift of a book called the TAO OF ELVIS
and do you know there was some things in there that actually helped me
thanks sue , dont know how you knew i needed that book but thanks a lot, i guess sometimes we give things without knowing that the other person needs, prob god helping us along dont you think or ELVIS or indeed both .
plus i keep seeing the words YOU CANT HAVE FRIENDSHIP WITHOUT TRUST so true, so dont worry blue moon laurie , this ju isnt blue
but i would be without you and all on here, god bless my sisters in soul
luv ju _________________ Julie Sharon Rose |
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