Get a FREE FORUM

Elvis tried canceling RCA contract to be a gospel singer?

Post anything here specifically concerning Elvis's spiritual beliefs and experiences in his life.

Moderator: Di

Elvis tried canceling RCA contract to be a gospel singer?

Postby Blue Moon » Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:09 am

First I've heard of highlighted area below, so I found it to be an interesting piece of trivia.

Elvis - a Gospel singer?: Elvis Presley is firmly seated on the throne as the King of Rock ‘n’ Roll, but his love for gospel music could have prevented it, according to one-time Blackwood Brothers member and Gospel Hall of Fame inductee Rick Price.

“Our kind of music has been around for well over 100 years,” Price said. “There used to be a company called the Stamps Music Company, and they sold song books.”

The song books, Price said, contained music written with shape notes, a form of notation in which the notes are represented by shapes to make the songs easier to learn.“One of their (the Stamps Music Company’s) ideas was to start a singing group,” Price said. “They started something called the Stamps Quartet. The quartet cycled through various members through the years, filling the lead, tenor, baritone and bass positions classic to the genre

“The Blackwood Brothers ended up buying the Stamps Music Company (including the Stamps Quartet) in the ’60s. That’s the group that backed Elvis,” Price said, “so there’s always been a connection to Elvis with Blackwood.”

The Stamps Quartet replaced the Imperials as Elvis’ backing singers and toured with Elvis through most of the 1970s. However, that was after Elvis had made it as a solo act, and Price said the Blackwood Brothers’ ties to the King began even earlier.“Cecil Blackwood had a group with Elvis back in the ’50s,” Price said, then clarified the two weren’t actually in a band at the same time. Cecil Blackwood, Price said, was in a gospel band called the Songfellows. Presley was pursuing his music career at the time and was interested in joining the group.

Elvis’ chance to be a Songfellow came following the tragic death of Blackwood Brothers baritone R.W. Blackwood in a plane crash in 1954, when Cecil Blackwood left the Songfellows to take his older brother’s position in the Blackwood Brothers, Price said.
However, Elvis was unable to accept the offer to join the Songfellows because the contract he had with Sun Records had just been sold to RCA, who would not release Elvis, Price said.

“Elvis went to Sun Records to try to get out of his contract when it happened,” Price said, “and he couldn’t get out.”


Elvis went on with his highly successful musical career, and the Blackwood Brothers continued on their path to be the first inductees to the Gospel Hall of Fame. The Blackwood Brothers and Elvis remained friends, though, and stayed in touch through the years.

“(The Blackwood Brothers) would go to his house, and they would sing gospel music all night long,” Price said. “He loved quartet music. He always said he wanted to be a quartet singer. “When (Elvis’) mother died back in the ’60s, he hired a plane so the Blackwood Brothers could sing at her funeral. They ended up singing about 13 or 14 songs.”

The friendship the two musical acts shared was long-lasting, and when Elvis died in 1977, Price said, some of the Blackwood Brothers even sang at his funeral. Price was never fortunate enough to meet Elvis, having joined the Blackwood Brothers close to the time of the King’s death, but, he said, “they would tell me all kinds of stories.”

News, Source: Sean Hart, The Argus Observer / Elvisinfonet
Laurie

It behooves one to sense God as dwelling within each of us, rather than as some distant entity, far above and seemingly beyond our reach.
User avatar
Blue Moon
Jewel in the Lotus
 
Posts: 2510
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:35 pm
Location: USA

Postby FairyTale » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:40 pm

Thanks Blue Moon I have never heard this, I wonder if Elvis ever said anything about him tring to get out of his Sun Records Contract to Wanda? I guess it just wasn't meant to be, at the time in Elvis's Life.
HOTT DAWG! - FairyTale!
User avatar
FairyTale
Jewel in the Lotus
 
Posts: 982
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:38 am

Postby Wanda June Hill » Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:53 pm

Hi ya all, he mentioned how his mom wanted him to be a gospel singer and that he too, wanted that- to be just a member of a group, a quartet and sing gospel. He never intended to do rock and rool or country or anything like that he said...he liked ballads and gospel and blues but gospel was the thing he most enjoyed singing. He said that things "got out of hand real fast after he signed with RCA and when the Col. took over it got all "het up quick" back to his Southern phrasing when he was serious and just talking it was funny and cute coming from HIM you know.
Especially as he tried to present such a sophisticated and educated front for the world most of the time. He felt he had to be a good representive to the fans... so he tried to be decent, intelligent and never bring shame to his fans by anything he did. Then he'd laspe into that aw shucks and say, "they just ain't caught me yet...but they're lookin'..." meaning the press etc:. He said that he had always wanted to b ring gospel into his shows and so finally he " just spit in the wind and did it- " and it went over well...most of the time. He always went to the big gospel show held every year, to listen and talk to his "peers" in the business and he knew alot of them. He said he thought he knew just about every gospel song written, though he was sure there were some he hadn't found or heard yet and it excited him to find an oldie that he heard as a child- especially so if he could actually find the person who sang it. In fact, he was looking into getting this old gentleman who used to sing with a group, to come join him on tour and Vegas but the guy had not sung much and was pretty old so he couldn't do it. Elvis was disappointed because he thought he could "get his voice back" if he practiced and he wouldn't have to work or do anything but come with him. Elvis was just so a child sometimes, thinking the guy could up and quit his life at his age and be an entertainer again- not just a singer but on stage with the biggest name etc:...it would have been fear city, but to Elvis it wasn't anything more than he wanted him up there with him...liked him and was opeing a door- then he finally realized that the man was too old, too worn down and frearful of change, so he "let him go" as he put it.
I think Elvis was meant to be a gospel singer- to reach people in the name of Christ through his music and gifts...but as he said, he got wired up wrong way back there and still hadn't got it straightened out yet.
wjh
Wanda June Hill
author of "We Remember, Elvis" & "Elvis - Face to Face"
User avatar
Wanda June Hill
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3135
Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:47 pm
Location: California

never knew this

Postby 73smile » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:52 pm

Thank you for posting this information. I would never doubt that if Elvis had his choice he would have done gospel His Way and STILL stunned the world.
We really enjoy listening to the arrangements of how Elvis wanted the gospel songs he recorded to sound. They are excellent. Actually they ROCK. He had a way to put his personal touch on whatever he sang and of all the gospel Cds we own, that really comes through.
I often wonder, because of his rich musical roots if he had to do nearly the number of takes when doing a gospel album as when doing say recording "Elvis From Memphis" or in the beginning "Heartbreak Hotel." It has been written that Elvis could hear the differences in what he recorded and what RCA put out. I wonder if they messed with his gospel recordings as he was certain that they did the rock n roll?
Did he ever speak to this Wanda?
73smile
" In times of peace; sons bury their fathers, in war, fathers bury their sons."

Herodotes Greek historian 484-432 BC
User avatar
73smile
Jewel in the Lotus
 
Posts: 662
Joined: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:39 am
Location: usa

Postby Sarena » Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:41 am

I wonder if they messed with his gospel recordings as he was certain that they did the rock n roll?


I read that RCA DID mess with his gospel recordings, for instance they brought Elvis' voice on the "How Great Thou Art" - Album to the front, but Elvis had intended that his voice should be not too prominent, but more in the background along with the choir. He only found out when he listened to the released album and was furious..... :roll: :x
Christine-Sarena

"ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE IF YOU ONLY BELIEVE"
User avatar
Sarena
Jewel in the Lotus
 
Posts: 1676
Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:00 am
Location: Germany

Postby Rainbow Light » Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:43 am

Many thanks to Laurie for posting this for us and also for all your thoughts and feedback! :D :P

I read that RCA DID mess with his gospel recordings, for instance they brought Elvis' voice on the "How Great Thou Art" - Album to the front, but Elvis had intended that his voice should be not too prominent, but more in the background along with the choir. He only found out when he listened to the released album and was furious.....


I can understand how and why Elvis would have been so furious about this and can't say I blame him either! :( :x

Elvis' voice was so versatile and enabled him to sing many different types of music but that which was so close to his heart and soul in gospel, his roots and his spirit I wish he'd have had the chance to have done more but what he did do brought so many to the Lord Jesus in their life and brought Love, Light, Hope, Faith and Happiness to many lives in the world - he must be aware NOW of how many hearts and lives Elvis truly touched, I wish there had been a way of him knowing while in his lifetime - it could have been so much help to him, I believe, too.
Seeks to encourage and inspire!
Rainbow Light
moderator
 
Posts: 10543
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:54 am
Location: England

Postby FairyTale » Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:50 pm

There is onsong I wished he would have sang more on stage and in records and that is O HAPPY DAY! I love how he did that song in rehearsal, but he never I don't think did that song on stage or put it in a Album.
Last edited by FairyTale on Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
HOTT DAWG! - FairyTale!
User avatar
FairyTale
Jewel in the Lotus
 
Posts: 982
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:38 am

Postby MaryInTheMorning » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:25 pm

Wanda June Hill wrote: I think Elvis was meant to be a gospel singer- to reach people in the name of Christ through his music and gifts...but as he said, he got wired up wrong way back there and still hadn't got it straightened out yet.


I say a big AMEN to the first part of your quote dear Wanda!! :wink: :D He definitely was meant to be a gospel singer and he most definitely DID reach people's hearts and souls in the name of Christ through his music and many gifts---by the multitudes!!! :wink: :D :D As to what our dear boy said about being wired the wrong way and not having gotten it straightened out, it just goes to show you that even he could be wrong once in a while. :wink: :P From everything I have seen and heard in my life, with all of the many many people that he touched with his gospel music, let alone all of his other many magnificent recordings, it don't seem like anything was mis-wired to me!! :wink: :D Methinks he done pretty darn good!! :wink: :D :D

Rainbow Light wrote: Elvis' voice was so versatile and enabled him to sing many different types of music but that which was so close to his heart and soul in gospel, his roots and his spirit I wish he'd have had the chance to have done more but what he did do brought so many to the Lord Jesus in their life and brought Love, Light, Hope, Faith and Happiness to many lives in the world - he must be aware NOW of how many hearts and lives Elvis truly touched, I wish there had been a way of him knowing while in his lifetime - it could have been so much help to him, I believe, too.


I say a resounding AMEN to what you have beautifully said here Sue my dear angel!!! :wink: :D :D

Sweet FairyTale, as our dear Elvis used to say onstage sometimes, "ask and you shall receive my dear!!" :wink: :D :D Lookie what I found for you and all of my angels to enjoy!! :wink: :P :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPyUP4_yVfY :wink: :D
Image
User avatar
MaryInTheMorning
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3369
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:41 pm
Location: Chicago

Postby Blue Moon » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:46 pm

Thanks for the Oh Happy Day link Mari. :P I had a feeling that's what it was since I remembered he had on the above red shirt while singing it. I wonder what other TTWII unreleased material there is which could be restored & presented to the public. I've hardly seen any of the unreleased bootleg footage, so I can only guess.

I wouldn't hold my breath, though, waiting on further restored releases. I remember reading recently that Warners wasn't planning on releasing a restored Elvis On Tour DVD because of the expense involved. Apprently it took millions to restore & put together the TTWII Special Edition yet it didn't seem to sell enough to have made the project worth the cost, according to what I read.

That probably explains why when the TTWII double CD edition was released this past year the 2nd CD wasn't even in stereo, and yet it contained the original theatrical release which was in stereo! Talk about cheap. . .
Laurie

It behooves one to sense God as dwelling within each of us, rather than as some distant entity, far above and seemingly beyond our reach.
User avatar
Blue Moon
Jewel in the Lotus
 
Posts: 2510
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:35 pm
Location: USA

Postby MaryInTheMorning » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:00 pm

You are very welcome dear Laurie! :wink: :D As far as how things go with either Warner Bros. or some things with EPE, like you said, I usually never hold my breath as far as restored DVD's, pictures, etc... or whatever may be in question. :roll: When I have held my breath concerning things like this before, the only thing it's gotten me is a blue face. :roll: :P
User avatar
MaryInTheMorning
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3369
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:41 pm
Location: Chicago

Postby Blue Moon » Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:11 pm

You know what Mari, though, I do think that Oh Happy Day is on the 2nd CD of the TTWII double disk edition, but was released in mono instead of stereo. Just going by memory here, so correct me if wrong. I did not get the double disc edition, though I may still yet for the bonus features.
Laurie

It behooves one to sense God as dwelling within each of us, rather than as some distant entity, far above and seemingly beyond our reach.
User avatar
Blue Moon
Jewel in the Lotus
 
Posts: 2510
Joined: Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:35 pm
Location: USA

Postby MaryInTheMorning » Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:47 pm

Actually dear Laurie I think you may be right about O Happy Day being on the 2nd CD of the TTWII double disc edition. :wink: :) I haven't gotten it yet either, but it is definitely on my ever growing list for the same reason as you stated, for the bonus featues. :wink: :D
User avatar
MaryInTheMorning
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3369
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:41 pm
Location: Chicago

Postby FairyTale » Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:45 pm

:D ThankYouMari, for putting that Link up TO THAT VIDEO! I was in a choir at my Church and we use to sing O Happy Day, it sounded a whole lot like how Elvis sang it but it would have been So Much Better if he was the Lead singer. :D Girls won't it be a Happy Day when we see The Lord and Elvis on the Other Side? :D
HOTT DAWG! - FairyTale!
User avatar
FairyTale
Jewel in the Lotus
 
Posts: 982
Joined: Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:38 am

Postby MaryInTheMorning » Sat Aug 16, 2008 12:51 am

You are very welcome FairyTale my dear friend!! :wink: :D

Fairy Tale wrote:....Girls won't it be a Happy Day when we see The Lord and Elvis on the Other Side?


It most certainly definitely will be sweet angel!! :wink: :wink: :D :D :D
User avatar
MaryInTheMorning
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3369
Joined: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:41 pm
Location: Chicago

Postby Rainbow Light » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:57 am

:D :D For the meantime, we are needed here on Earth to be all what our Father requires us to be and do but yes, one day, that's gonna be one humdinger of a reunion! :D :D
Seeks to encourage and inspire!
Rainbow Light
moderator
 
Posts: 10543
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:54 am
Location: England

Next

Return to Spiritual Path

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


Powered by Free-Forums.org. Free Forum Hosting - Get your FREE FORUM now!
Hosted on DUAL XEON, 4GB RAM, SCSI drive RAID 1 managed dedicated servers at THEPLANET data center with premium dedicated server bandwidth.


This site is hosted by free-forums.org