Elvis - A Lighted Candle

[Golden Sky]

Wanda you said it was a pedestal. Now it's a bowl. Did the pedestal just morph or did you chop the stand off? You're the one using it and seeing it at Starla's all the time so why would you ever think it is a pedestal when it's a bowl??

Maybe because ambrosia would slide off a pedestal in the delivery van.

Laurie you may think this is a cheap shot, but the whole is more than the sum of its parts.

Wanda changes her story too often to win my trust.

I joined ELC knowing very little about Elvis. Over time, as I read more and more books about him, I saw that Wanda's accounts of Elvis were often extremely different than what I get from other books, but I didn't lose faith in her. I was always bewildered that Elvis thought he was a Pig, for example, because he was so heavily into karate. And I was truly stunned to read that Wanda took a shirt from Elvis, and I never thought that was cute or funny. Elvis deliberately left money out sometimes to see if people would take it, and he based his trust on who took it and who left it alone. I think she should have gathered that he was like that. But I still had faith in you, Wanda.

Some things in your book and here at ELC have seemed false to me, and I have given you the benefit of the doubt anyway.

But when I asked you about cooking and just followed the natural progression of that story, some real red flags went up. First, you said he sent you ambrosia and naturally I wanted to know how it was sent, being a very sloppy, perishable food. You avoided the question and congratulated me on my baby. I persisted and you gave me every little detail of how it was sent and included Elvis's florists' name and revealed that the florist died. Well...it seems you are pretty detail-oriented after all! And suddenly you know the secret ingredient. AND it came in a crystal pedestal.

Laurie, you will quibble at this, and say it means nothing, but I know some compulsive liars and that is exactly how they do things: snowball you with details when they get paranoid that you are on to a lie. And imagine my surprise to learn it wasn't always ambrosia, it used to be cheesecake, and Wanda didn't know!

I still had faith!!!

Then Ingrid came on here. She says it was not her intention to have a public conversation with Wanda, but Wanda simply made it public. Take that for what it is: a woman was basically put "on the stand" when she didn't want to be.

Ingrid was talking about fake letterheads, two letters in the gallery with errors in the letterhead. One puts Elvis in Palm Springs when he was in Memphis 6 days before he died. Astonishing. I paid attention. I was following that conversation and realized Wanda has some serious marks against her credibility. Still wanting to believe in her, I tried to suggest that she should protect her story. I was thinking she could consult outside sources for an Elvis time-line and be more meticulous in arranging her memories around that. She insisted that she's doing fine and basically called me a "kid."

So now things are coming to my mind all the time. I realized that it's no longer just an innocent mistake if Wanda says she met Diane, the actress who arranged for Wanda to talk to Elvis, at the laundromat, and in other places she has said the beach. Why? Think. If you met a superstar, would you ever forget where you where when it all began? How could you, when you'd be telling the story to people all the time? It's not something you stuff in the back of your mind and forget about. I'm just being realistic.

And she says in one place she knew nothing about Elvis when she first talked to him, and in her own book, someone says she knew QUITE A LOT. Well that is pretty suspicious! How does a person write that off?

I didn't like the way Wanda seemed to be insinuating that Ingrid was hinting that she and Elvis were having an affair, I think she was trying to make Ingrid look bad.

So, now that I'm detecting Wanda's pattern of being rather free with her details, as if she's not binding herself to fact whatsoever, the little discrepancies add up to, and become symbolic of, something larger.

Are we dealing with truth or fiction??

I'm thinking its less fact and more fiction as this whole house of cards seems to be coming down. The UFO signature is fake. Laurie, graphology books are a dime a dozen and people who are into paranormal stuff tend to dabble in that too. Don't be surprised when I say I've been pouring over them for years. I had my handwriting professionally analyzed and asked the graphologist for even more tips. But, my point is, anyone can see that one's fake. THAT'S how fake it is.

Another startling point. Please pay attention. Elvis, as Wanda presents him, was just as bad with dates as SHE was! How peculiar. Please look at this letter:

http://elvislightedcandle.org/WJH/epletter_1977.htm

Elvis says, ..." do you remember when we first met in the spring of 1963." Obviously he is referring to their first meeting on the set of Kissing Cousins. Well, that wasn't shot until October, 1963. October is not spring. You see?

If Wanda is making things up, it's only natural that "Elvis" will make the same mistakes that are typical of HER. Because that's her trademark!

Wanda, you are undoubtedly a nice lady and I don't know what happened. You were always supportive of me here , and your kindness didn't go to waste. God be with you... but I just don't believe you anymore. And I hope this letter spares someone else the disillusion I feel, having grown attached to the people here, and not belonging anymore.

Love,
Trish

[Amanda Viola]

This is not the first time that something I read here reminds me of two possible ways to approach reality. Neither of them is good or bad. They simply correspond to different stages of our awareness growth.

With a smile I remember when I was at my late twenties, I was asserting that Jesus was an intelligent and special man, a revolutionary! Thus I was denying what the "establishment" (the Church) was asking to be "blindly" accepted. At the same time I was thus affirming myself -my thought's autonomy- I was polarizing myself, and putting aside my capability to experience Truth in my heart.It took me much time to dare to let the heart take the lead and submite the intellect into its service in some themes. Some call it "to bring down the head into the heart". This way, both put together, they work incredible well, being the Heart the one to guide our steps.

It's our heart speaking what attracts us to Elvis, coming into resonance with him. We humans have many flaws and contradictions, dwelling in this half Light reality. I don't expect total coherence and perfection in anybody. I try to be very understanding with my own faults, also. What matters to me is the LOVE's projection a soul like Elvis' generated. It resounded in my heart as Truth. I felt Elvis was a Truth seeker and he breathed Truth into his deeds. He mastered in Love. And it is my heart again that makes me love Wanda, her caring heart setting a battle against perspectives that leave Love aside. Her inner Truth is heard by my heart like a trumped and is seen shinny and steady.

Can we ask for more?

[Golden Sky]

Amanda, as the biblical saying goes, "The mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart." Your heart is beautiful, so your words are beautiful. But for me, there is reality and there is make-believe, and I am not here for the make-believe.

I'm not saying I don't love Wanda or think she's nice or intelligent. I'm saying she is not a credible source of information about Elvis Presley. There is NO reality in some of her stories. And I don't see much beauty in pure deception.

But thank you for your thoughts anyway, Amanda.

Laurie, you wrote:

Wanda did not have her 1978 book ghostwritten as stated above. Her publisher had complete edit control, however, and appears to have taken some liberties. It is why she chose to self publish her recent 2nd edition. Wanda does have a copy of her 1978 book, but it is put away and hard to get to. Her focus is on her 2006 book, though, because that is more recent and the one she had complete control over.

Ghostwriting and "complete edit control" both point to double authorship don't they? And unless the publisher's fake contribution was overwritten, the fact that Wanda gained complete control of the 2006 edition says nothing for her integrity. Do you have the 78 edition and can you tell me whether or not it's identical to the 2006 edition?

I'm not making a case against Wanda just to be annoying. I realize there's a slim chance I'll ever be vindicated, unless I can refute her entirely. I believe that that is possible to do. But should I, if it will cause you pain?

For now, I'm trying to get through to those of you who can see patterns, read people well, and extrapolate a larger truth from a small truth.

Wanda lies in her book when she says that Elvis took Priscilla to Hawaii when she was pregnant. She wrote:

"He finished the movie he was working on and then he and Priscilla went home to Memphis to awit the birth of the baby. Also during this time, he took her on a trip to Hawaii. He said that it was beautiful being there together "just lazin´aroung eatin´pickles," and he laughed the lazy contented laugh of a happy man."

Isn't that something. She remembers him laughing, even. Did you all read this part of the book and believe it?

But it's not true. Not in the slightest bit.

Priscilla says in Elvis and Me:

"Elvis and I decided to get away to Hawaii. This was the first time we´d gone on holiday, and I was hoping that it would be a second honeymoon, that my experience with Mark would be forgotten. We took along Lisa, her nurse, Joe, Joanie, Patsy ad her husband, Gee Gee, Lamar and his wife Nora, and Charlie."

Guralnick's Day by Day timeline also sides with Priscilla.

So we have to conclude that Wanda simply fabricated that conversation with Elvis AND that whole scenario of him taking her to Hawaii.

If she did it once, how many other times??

Love,
Trish

[Blue Moon]

Thank you Amanda for your eloquent post. You always seem to get to the "heart" of the matter.

Trish, ghostwriting and editing are not one in the same. In her 1978 book, Wanda was both the primary & listed/credited author. Therefore, her book could not have been ghostwritten.
Here is the Wikitionary definition of "ghostwriter":
"A professional writer who is paid to write books, articles, stories, or reports which are officially credited to another person." Just because Wanda's 1978 book was heavily edited does not mean she was not both the primary & listed/credited author.

As for what Wanda meant about Elvis' Hawaii trip, I'll leave that to her to respond to, if she feels so inclined.

About the crystal pedestal, it is actually part of a set which Wanda received from Elvis. It includes both the pedestal & the bowl which sits on top of it. There maybe another piece included as well, but definitely the pedestal & bowl are in the set.

I hope this information helps.

[Golden Sky]

Thank you, Laurie, it does help.

But I still don't understand how a "set" was delivered along with the ambrosia that day. It sounds rather complicated.

All the best,
Love,
Trish

[Golden Sky]

This thread is continued here:

elvislightedcan-about3166.html

Thank you for your attention.

[Amanda Viola]

Let's remember that:

[MaryInTheMorning]

Absolutely beautiful and so very true Amanda my dear friend!!! Thank you for sharing this with us!

[Golden Sky]

Amanda, I love you and that is such a beautiful picture.

But please excuse me for disagreeing with the quote.... Reason can be very powerful in the expression of love, as when someone says, "I love you because" and gives the reasons, and that makes you feel they understand and appreciate you.

And now I am using my powers of reason to try, in a labor of love, to make perfectly clear the fact that Wanda is not what you think she is. So Reason in this case is exactly how I express my Love.

I'm sorry if it causes you pain. It causes me pain, too.

Please read this whole thread again with an open mind. Especially what Ingrid wrote.

Love,
Trish

[Sarena]

It causes me pain, too.

When feelings are hurt, understanding is blurred and intuition also. Nowadays when my feelings are hurt I go within and try to analyse why I let this happen. If I am honest I have to admit that I hurt MYSELF and by holding on to my self-pity I will gain nothing. I might have a problem with someone but I will not solve it by being sarcastic or by fighting who is right or wrong, but by focussing within and by becoming still and connecting with the LOVE vibration which it to be found there--within. Then struggle will cease and I am able to UNDERSTAND, even though I might have a different opinion

[kenya]

Let me tell you something Trish: you're a nice lady, I have nothing against you, on the contrary. I really, really appreciate everyone here, you too. I think I'm an open mind, even if I'm not still agree. But you have your reasons for not believing in Wanda, and I've got mine to have confidence in her. You're not gonna change your mind and me either.It has been 2 years since I'm here( time goes by... ) and It allowed me to get acquainted of wonderful people. I'm happy. I love that place because of the spiritual side, the very simple, sensitive and open people! There's something special about it, not like the others. We can talk about Elvis without" you're wrong, I'm right..." do see what I mean? Of course, you can be disagree with somebody's opinion, but there's still that mutual respect . It's not the case everywhere.... Every member bring something special. I will always be attentive of what you're thinking.
KISSS

[Amanda Viola]

I appreciate very much your comments, Sarena and Kenya, and I basically share them.


Dear Trish,

I love you too. We are simply the actors of a play, each one having a special role in it.

I would like to give you support and somehow I do, 'cause I consider it's YOUR time for having this kind of experience. I walked that path long ago and I do understand your moment. You are intelligent and brave... and Lightful, and all these qualities will take you far away.

You are not "clamoring in the desert". You and Ingrid forced each one here to listen to their heart and positionate herself. This is useful, indeed! Each one has to carry with the consequences of her acts and purposes and there's a lot to learn in all this.

[MaryInTheMorning]

Sweet Kenya and dear Amanda both of your posts were so well worded and spoke the feelings of my own heart and the only thing that I can add is that I agree with what both of you have said 100%!!!!!!!

[Amanda Viola]

[MaryInTheMorning]

Absolutely beautiful Amanda my dear friend!! Thank you so much for sharing this here with us at a time that it was so needed.