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Skylar Star · Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: Joyce Bova?

Hello Wanda!
I wanted to ask you if Elvis mentioned anything about Joyce? I have her book and like June, she had also broke up with Elvis. At one time, he wanted her to live with him at Graceland.

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Wanda June Hill · Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 1:04 pm Post subject:

Hi, the only thing he said about her was when I mentioned that Jimmie's sister whom we called Shirley liked using her middle name best- Joyce and that she was having a birthday and he asked for her number...she also had a daughter who had some birth problems and I think he was interested in finding out more about that at the time. Anyway, he said, "Joyce... I know a lady named that...and told me what it meant which I have forgotten now...the meaning of the word separated etc: he was into doing that at the time. It was a spiritual meaning, I remember that and him saying that they were often "special souls" sent to help people through trying times and friends named Joy or Joyce were to be cherished...as special.

I wish I could recall his exact explanitions but... gone....

I believe at the time he was seeing her he didn't want any publicity about it, that he and pris were more apart than together except for the media and fan's benefit etc: ...and it was kept very quiet as were several other lady friend's visits.... he was "sparing Priscilla's feelings by keeping it quiet as well as doing what she told him to do- not wanting to have it front page news etc:... And too, he still had hope of resolving their problems and was letting her "sow her wild oats" because as he said, "I did."

As for June's book, I will try to get a copy as I've not read it. I have seen parts of the video on tv a time or two but nothing else. His mom did everyting for him....made his food, cut it up, cooked just as he liked it, waited on him hand and foot, He was very spoiled. And June would have continued it I think, because she did seem to really care about him.
He was 21 when he did Love Me Tender-and turned 22 while making it- the starlet who went to his house for Christmas was a set up for photo opt shots and nothing else- they were friends. Nick Adams was using Elvis I know and he knew it, but he still kind of liked him and he did introduce Elvis to lots of hollywood starlets and Natlie Woods too. Elvis wanted to be another James Dean and Nick was "experienced" somewhat in the business so Elvis brought him along like he did so many other people...if he was your friend, he remained so unless Elvis finally had enough of "excusing" your actions. I think he was hurt that Nick was "telling on him to the Col. etc:" but he still was upset when Nick died as he did - Elvis thought someone killed him. Probably did...
Anyway, thanks for telling me I can still find her book. I thought they looked good together too... she had the dark hair etc: that he liked and she and his mom got along very well. His mom told Anita Wood she'd like them to get married so she could have a blue eyed blond little grandson playing on the driveway... She wanted him to settle down and be taken care of... properly etc:. She knew he needed special care and worried about him constantly.

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Skylar Star · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:47 am Post subject:

Thanks for the info Wanda! I wanted to look up Joyce's name on the Internet and found that it is a breton name which means Lord (other sites have it listed as little Lord) which is extremely fitting for Elvis. I can definitely see him being drawn to people with names of this spiritual nature. I had read that he was very private of that relationship. I know she was too especially in regards to her career which would have been a definite problem had the public found out.

I'm glad to hear that the starlet who came for Christmas was publicity only. I'm still a rather new fan so I didn't know all of the circumstances surrounding it. I do remember June was extremely hurt by it and with her not being in constant contact with Elvis at the time, just made matters all the worse. It just wasn't meant to be but she always had a great love for him.

I didn't care much for Nick as a person at least with what I've read. During Elvis and June's relationship, Nick made it a point of trying to make June feel insecure about the relationship in regards to possible other women. I did read a few things surrounding his death and it did sound unusual. Might have been a setup.

Oh and there are some great pics in June's book. This one I like, she was going to send it to Elvis.

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Wanda June Hill · Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 12:02 pm Post subject:

Could be- but I doubt she would have ever told him that.. she wouldn't have wanted to ruin her relationship with him as he made it plain he didn't want his women getting pg. I don't think it was "that he didn't like sleeping with mothers"- I think it was more he felt a woman who had a child shouldn't be "sleeping around"? He never said anything about his "dislike" in any way other than the above in various comments... but he did not want to have a child out of wedlock... it was more his feelings on the "God's gift of children" and he tended to be of the "old school" etc: than anything else.

There were too many women in his life that had kids... and he didn't seem to have any problems according to their stories - which ring very true in how they relate what they say about him and being around him and etc:... things they wouldn't know otherwise. He didn't as he put it "go looking for virgins" either, in fact he tended to feel "safer" with those who were "free spirits" as he once explained the various ones he met.

Sometimes things he might say off handidly seem to have turned into major statements it seems to me. But then, everything is "filtered" through the eyes and ears of each individual person and how they "hear" or "see" whatever it might be. So to each their own... he ain't here to set it straight so we'll never know for certain. It did make a good "cover" story that was something he could live with... etc:...

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Skylar Star · Posted: Thu May 29, 2008 10:08 am Post subject:

Yeah she did have an abortion. I believe at the time, the only person who she told about it was her twin sister. From what I recall reading her book, towards the end of their relationship, his lifestyle proved to be too much for her to handle. I think she was missing work which was unlike her. I know she was supposed to come out to California to stay with him and then decided not to.
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73smile · Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:55 pm Post subject: I remember

In the book authorized by Graceland by Gulanick the author talked about Bova and said she worked in D.C. in a government job and also said she had an abortion---according to her.
I can not imagine her not telling Elvis she was expecting his baby and the 'ridding' herself of any baby at all much less one that would be part of Elvis forever.
I do not believe he would ever have abandoned a baby of his--he may have kept it all quiet but he was a man of honor. Period.
That part of Bova's story has never quite rung true with me but I was not there so................
I just can not accept that Elvis would have told her to get rid of part of him---never.
Just my opinion, though.
always with love,
73smile
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FairyTale · Jewel in the Lotus Joined: 12 Feb 2008 Posts: 644

No I can't believe that if Elvis ever knew that a Women was having his Baby, that he would ever want that Child Destoried. He Love Childern, and he always wanted more childern. Elvis I have to believe would never told a Women to get a Abortion, he was Raised Different then that. FairyTale!
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Skylar Star · Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject:

I believe and anyone can correct me if I'm wrong since it's been awhile since I read the book, but I thought she possibly did it because of the way Elvis felt towards Priscilla after she had Lisa Marie with him looking at Priscilla as a mother. I don't feel either he would have told her to get rid of the baby because Elvis loved children. In fact he WANTED more children. Joyce did work for the government and her job title escapes me at the moment.
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ALNA · Jewel in the Lotus Joined: 12 Mar 2006 Posts: 852

elvis not wanting Pris anymore after baby Lisa had nothing to do with her giving birth not at all......

It is something Pris made up after his death and was never ever mentionned during his lifetime
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