may them rot in hell.. sorry friends but this is what I feel..they're guilty of too many things I see, even to cause people feel hate ,as they did to me,is a crime itself..Wanda thank you again for sharing all those information with us ..and they don't need any piece of the pie since they ate the pie itself as a whole..who could dream of being treated as brothers and loved by Elvis all those years..and still can ask for more..

Gonna put in my two cents

I spent YEARS of my life being horribly upset, angry and yes, even HATING for the first time in my life...when all the money-grubbing "friends" and some family came forth again and again and again to rifle over the carcass of Elvis and "take away his dignity" as Lisa said....and do it with LIES and half-truths. It added to my chronic health problems, I know. And it didn't help my karma any. Here I was a "spiritual teacher" so to speak, and I was spitting and fuming and wanting to strangle people!! And what did it get me? WORSE health problems and a bitterness in my soul.

I JUST CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE. I CAN'T GO THERE.

What I CAN do is to continue with ELC and it's forums and to support Wanda's message, her books, etc. all I possibly can, and to hopefully get Blue Star Love out there before too long.

Well, Lisa has it all-they as "members of the family" got little in comparison and they did "grow up" as his "brothers" even though daddy did divorce momma and apparently for good reasons, mainly money spent behing his back (daddy's) and I guess they feel cheated or that they ought to have received more for their 17 years of "devotion" and etc: but that wasn't for Elvis to decide-or else he chose not to decide-whatever, he left it to his child, his exwife (wife in his heart) and his daddy and his family. After all, that's what the man of the house would do- and his father had already given the exwife of his quite a big settlement and money every month which came from Elvis too, as his father was getting money for "working" for his son...the business of Elvis Presley, Inc. etc:. Which Elvis said was "a carnival, complete with "rides", glitter and hype". And he was the biggest "freak attraction" there." He liked that song about "all the horses are packed up in boxes and gone, all the glitter, and rides are moving along" But don't be sad, because I won't be gone long, I'm comin' back".
I can't think of the name of it but I thought of what he said the minute I heard it for the first time right after it was released. He found one that said it for him! And then he did Fairytale and that one was the story of his life, he said-one big fairytale. And really, it is, really...he said. If you have the LP or CD or cassette of him talking back when he was on the movie set, he's talking so softly, normally, and everything seems to end in really,
I love listening to that-it was so being himself, though he was trying to speak properly and be "educated sounding" as he worried that people would think he was dumb-because they did when he first began, he was ridiculed for sounding "black" for talking like a "hick" and for being "dumb"-he wasn't dumb-he was innocent, he just didn't know how to deal in the big bad world but he learned quickly and sheilded himself from as much as he could. It is so stupid when people like that one that did the playboy interview/story thing back a while said those disgusting things and that Elvis was such a sex machine-
he would have been too embarrassed to do those things-figments of her imagination for sure. I can't see him EVER being that outrageous-even privately though he might have been then-but only if he knew whomever wouldn't tell-then he'd have worried enough he would have toned it all down. Nope, not the guy I knew who would blush! At 31 years old! And as far as other stories, well, it makes good "copy" and sells. so be it. I think most people will find the Stanley book and movie to be a crock-and after all, hasn't it all been down the road several times already? It's just ironic that it's coming out now-when so many good books are being done and coming out- I hope with all of them, including mine, we can do something good for his memory for the people who will come along years to come. At least there will be something else to counter-just like when the first one came out and the that goldman crap came out about the same time. David implies that Elvis did it on purpose-overdosed-so he wouldn't have to face the truth-that's crap. He wouldn't have left his baby girl to face that kind of stuff-he was living for her, he said so.
And he wasn't a quitter-he would fight back and had cleaned himself up as far as he could, sleeping pills, etc: when I saw him in December, 76 he had not slept, he had not taken any sleeping pills, he was dead tired and he was on his way to see doctors-they didn't give him good news-and he didn't expect them to-but everyone hopes, wants to try, he was no different. He was lucid and able to converse very well, in depth, carefully and with patience, understanding for so many and he said things he normally would not-because he thought it might be his last chance- That's what I believe-he wanted me to know the truth-he had always been truthful with what he told me-unless he was protecting someone else. He never lied, not to save himself. His family said the same things, so did Charlie-it's almost like Davey waited for that-so no one would deny it-after all, Charlie was living there, he was almost always there, he would know...the others didn't live there-Please God, let some of them who were, speak up. now is the time. wjh

I left this out of the excerpts in the letters to Wanda I posted recently, as I didn't want to dwell on the illness. But due to the Stanley statements, I decided to post it here. This is from a woman who spent some time with Elvis in Vegas in the late 1970's.

Wanda,

Just now reading through the comments on the Stanley movie. First I've heard of this movie actually (though I read David's 1986 book). Thank you so much for speaking out with the truth & defending Elvis. I was not aware of some of the deceptions you mentioned. Sure wish a movie could be made based on your book!!

Hi, don't think it will ever be anything. He was promoting and saying whatever to get attention for it and to make it "sell". I hardly think it will be seen by many-and it may well just be a "made for tv" movie and will have to go up for sale to the stations- I doubt it gets much attention if it makes to tv. And if it goes to movie houses-practically none, most likely. Except for those who love seeing and hearing dirt, always will be those.
Elvis always said any publicity is good publicity-but it still hurt him though he'd laugh about it and try to joke it off.
David seemed to be contradicting himself quite a bit-and it's the only thing he has to sell left over from those days. There are good ones out now-Kathy's book is still available, Larry's, and all the good comments from his band members, back up singers and people he worked with on films-everyone is speaking out more now-it's funny how that happens...someone comes out with wild tales and other people step up and counter it. Thank heaven for that! I wonder how many will come out and trash my book this time-happened before-I expect it to again. And as he said, "any publicity is good..." makes people want to know more I guess. I had trouble not making him sound "too nice" because most of what I saw from him was nice-it was the guys who were the "dogs" and boy, were they ever! No wonder Elvis tried to keep them up in his suite singing- the mouth can't get you in trouble, he said, when it's busy praising the Lord!" Right on there...wjh

I read with a lot of intrest this topic.

The Stanley boys, wow they sure take after their mother.

I once read some terrible stories Dee Dee Presley told the press.

Man, that person really tore Elvis in pieces.

She even invented a horrible story about Elvis having a relation with his mother

Or

Elvis being homosexual

OR

Priscilla having had a relation with Vernon

when I heared these so called revelations I really tought "HOW LOW CAN YOU GO"

I do not understand why Priscilla nor Lisa never did something to take her to court

I also read somewere that Dee was very hard on Priscilla when she was living there at Graceland as a young girl.

It was really a creepy women. Looked creepy, acted creepy

I always had so many questions regarding Elvis dead. Still do. Sometimes I cannot help but having that feeling that there was sort of a conspiracy.
Sometimes it looks to me he was murdered. But who are the good guys who are the bad guys in his entourage. And what about Ginger.

I just don't like her neighter. Wasn't there a story going on she had an affair with one of the Stanley boys.

How do they explain the fact that she had fully make up on when she called for help and some say there were alreaddy phonecalls from the house to the press before any help or ambulance came.

What I do not understand is, was there never a serious investigation surrounding his dead.

Whu is the autopsy report sealed for so long.

What about all the very different versions. Elvis died of an overdose, Elvis died because of heartfailure, Elvis had wide spread cancer.

Will we ever know the truth.

Why doesn't Lisa act now she is an adult.

She obviously adored him, well I do not want to blame her or anything but to me she seems to be a lady who doesn't buy crap from anyone. But on the other hand she seems never to take any action when she needed to.

I know if my dad would die under these circumstances, well I would go for it without limitations. I would go for the truth. Even if it took years.

Sincerely

Riley

I probably could regret this, but she had barely moved into his house when she attempted to tempt him-saying there was enough of her for both of them- And this in the wee hours of the night, in his kitchen where he was sitting having a sandwich and she came down in a thin nighty and made the big mistake of thinking being "him" he would be interested. As she lay on the floor where he let her fall, she was told in pricise laungage I'm sure-to get lost...and if she saw him coming, to get the hell out of his sight. He didn't go home much for quite a while-he didn't tell on her, and just waited for him to figure it out on his own-which he did when he discovered her interest in a younger man-a singer with ambitions and money "dissapearing" too often. I believe that guy was around for quite a while-kind of like the impersonator that was on the scene after 8/16/77 ? ? ?
Anyway there was no "motherly love" involved and no more money coming her way ever again. The "kids" were different-they stayed on when she left-left her for him sort of and there was much heated words and hate for that "disloyalty to mother" business...but I don't know much about it-and all I ever heard was of the "tempting" routine in the kitchen. He didn't finish his sandwich or coffee either-nor did he help her up. There were several years that he was just coridual with his dad over the whole situation-he missed him but he wouldn't give in one iota. And stayed away as much as he could
except for holidays and birthdays etc: - after the ashes fell and the flames were out, he was glad to have his father back, they talked a lot and he said he had to "learn how to handle him" just as his mom had done and once he did and had it down good as he put it, they were fine and enjoyed each other's company. And that's all I can say about any of that- But what she came up with was a crock of you know what and she must of been taking too many valiums at the time she said it. Anything for a buck though...it seems that way with many of those people. wjh

I saw Dee on a TV talk show when she was trying to get a book published with the "he had sex with his mother" story in it. To mt knowledge, the book was never published. This was years ago.

Anyway, on that show she kept saying, "I tell you, he had SSSSEX with his mother!" the word "sex" came out like a snake hissing. You could visible see people in the audience recoiling from her.

Then one of her sons called in, I think it was Ricky, and he said not to believe her as she was "mentally ill"! When asked why he had backed her up on her previous book, he stated that he was at that time trying to be "loyal" to his mother.

The audience pretty well cleaned her clock as well!

Never heard of her again. perhaps she is now in a institution as she was mentally sick.

Never liked her and after reading Wanda June's story it all came clear.

She was a rejected women and she was bitter.

Well somehow I alreaddy had that feeling. In Germany she went in the first place for Elvis but she became befriended with the father because the son was only polite to her and didn't see anything in her.

She must have figured well a Presley is a Presley, and that is how she started dating him...

I read it somewhere but I'm going to look in which book it was.

Wanda June in your text there you say something about how to handle his father.

Was he a difficult man, Vernon. Did you ever got to meet him???

Did Elvis ever told you about Vernon beating his momma.

That is something I read too, but what can we believe and what not.

It is hard to imagine that he would have still liked his father when that would have been true.

Take care
Riley

Hi, Elvis loved his father. He gave him his respect and he was understanding of where his dad came from-poverty more severe than Elvis experienced as a kid and that was bad enough. I have heard that Vernon had a temper that came out if he had been drinking- many people drink when they have problems-and too, he had injured his back doing as Elvis said, "work way to hard for him" and alcohol can deaden pain and other things as well. His dad quit drinking and as Elvis said, things were better then. Too, his dad served time in jail for forging a check by a few dollars when he felt he had been cheated and probably was, by the man he worked for and who ended up owning the house Vernon had built for him and Gladys-there was still money owed on it I guess when he went to jail. Anyway, Elvis loved him, but he was closer to his mother and didn't have that same kind of closness with his dad. His dad was strict-so was his mom and young Elvis learned that he must respect and obey them early. He never had anything bad to say about his father-just the opposite and of course his mother was an angel, living one at that...in his memory that was all that counted. Elvis said that he was "just like any young boy, onery and sneaking out when he could to do things he knew he'd get in trouble for-and he said "I did- often enough to know better and quit ...gettin' caught!" He did say that he had more "whippings" from his dad than he did his mother... she would put him in the closet and make him sit in there in the dark-that was enough he said, to make him "toe the line" most of the time. Elvis had his lower lip split and his front upper teeth-or one of them-chipped and I think it was due to "punishment" for "talking back" to his father or his mother- I think it was his dad that did it-but I'm not swearing to that as factual. Whatever, he had them capped when he became "popular"-I think it was Sam Phillips or someone involved with Sun Records that had Elvis' teeth capped so he'd look good smiling.
Who ever, a big hug to him-them as that smile was something!
I think Elvis meant that he had to learn more about his dad and how to get along with him since he was looking after Elvis' money instead of his mom doing it. Vernon was always there for Elvis afterward-except during the time he was married to Dee - that caused some discord but Elvis was always one to leave the scene rather than "fuss over it". He wanted peace and quiet and understanding above all in the family.
I met Vernon in Vegas, he was very nice, laughed and asked questions kind of like Elvis did-about our family, what kind of work, how often we had come to Vegas and he laughed over a comment I made about Elvis but in a round about way. We did not talk to Vernon about Elvis or ask him anything and I think he appreciated it. He had breakfast with us-coffee and toast anyway-it was 1969 and then we talked with him in 1970 briefly and he didn't remember us-I could tell that. He did not ave his son's memory for things-that was certain. By then he was wearing nicer clothes, a mustache and had his nails manicured and polished-his wife Dee was getting her hair done and he was playing the dollar slots just as he always did when in Vegas. He'd win, then try another one and usually won there too. Not big money, but he was putting in lots of silver dollars! He didn't like the hours his son kept and tried to sleep nights. His comment was about "not much for keeping owl hours."
Thank God Vernon didn't die before Elvis-I don't think Elvis could have handled losing his father-it scared him very much when his dad was ill and it was his heart. I think Elvis must have stayed awake for more than a week over that-and then was sick himself worrying over his father. wjh

Yeah, he told a few things about his grandma- in the interview he said she told him "to stop mooning over something that was out of reach" when he was blue over the fact Pris was in Germany, he was in the US and he was depressed because he couldn't see her and she was so young. He said she (grandma) "clipped" him with her cane when she was wanting to "make a point".
And he'd snap back into reality pretty quickly then. He also must have told her about me and my family because one Christmas when we got a present from him there were hand crocheted little squares about 4 by 4 inches with different colored pansy flowers on them-they were like little potholders but way to pretty for that! And she had made them, gave them to him to give to us! I was surprised and sent her a thank you card and got back a little note-typed-that thanked ME for loving her grandson enough to "put up with him"... I haven't thought about that in years! I have the little potholders still and never used them other than I used to have a big kitchen and they were displayed on a wall with other framed flower pictures. When he first brought Priscilla as a young teenager, to meet her, and after Pris was gone back home to Germany-she was visiting- his grandmother told him not to marry her, she "would break my heart". And he told me this after they married and expecting the baby and he was the happiest he'd ever been and laughed about that dire warning. He said his grandma was something of a "witch" and could do "things" and told things-foretold things-that sometimes happened. He said she could read cards and made "predictions" that often came true-or true enough, he added, to make a person think she could foresee the future. He joked about it-but I think he probably thought of it often later when his heart was broken. I'm glad she outlived him also-that would have broken his "shield" pretty good too.
he said he carried a "big shield to protect me from the slings and arrows" that were thrown at him by the"world and all it's many rock throwers". He didn't often talk about his relatives who lived with him-and if he did, it was either funny, sad or unusual. His Aunt Delta was a real card-apparently- and he had to go down there and get her because he didn't want her living alone-and she had a dog that he didn't like much because it wasn't housebroken too well and liked to chew things...and it didn't like anyone but her and Lisa according to something I read somewhere. Elvis liked to jump at it and make it bark at him, or so the article said. I think it was some movie magazine-so that probably was fabrication-who knows. He didn't tell me he did that-but knowing him, he probably would have if the dog reacted that way. His grandma didn't like the bird that talked-screamed and carried on and knew some "choice words and phrases" that I'll just bet Elvis taught it to say! wjh

Sincerely thanks for those nice stories.
Riley (Nadine)

Hi, it was a real surprise to me when we got the gift and card too. It had to be that she knew about Elvis' friends and the only way would have been had he told her something about it. That's the only time that I can say for sure any one knew-and it really freaked us out after his death to think he didn't say anything-or if he did, no one was going to say so for whatever their reasons were. Just haven't any way to know now, and besides that, it didn't really matter to us-but it was nice of her to want to send something. I used to know when her birthday was and sent her a card for several years after Elvis left us. I guess she got them-never heard another word from there. Except for the one time I tried speaking with Vernon-I wanted to send him something from his son, but he was so worried about money and legal issues he wasn't himself, it seemed. So I just sent him a copy of our book and after several months, we got the letter from him and that was all the communication I ever had with anyone from there. Except for a letter from lawyers who let me know Elvis' voice was "owned" and couldn't be "used" without
paying big money... and by how many seconds... not even minutes! wjh.