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FairyTale
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Post subject: They were His Songs! Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:14 am |
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[b]  Ok I have to Rant a Little Here, so Please Forgive Me! I have been Listening to a Album of a Concert of Our Elvis, and in this Concert Elvis did some different songs Instead OF The "SONGS" He was Told HE HAD TO SING! and everytime he switched Songs he would ask Charlie if He Elvis Had Permission to do these Different Songs! Now Where May I Ask Did AnyOne Have The Right, To Tell Elvis Want He Should Sing? I Know His Whole Life Was Always Someone Else's Business, but  Now It is Want he Sings at His ConCerts To! 
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FairyTale
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:48 am |
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 Thanks RainBowLight, But it just really Burns Me When This Crap Just Kept going On All Through Elvis' Life. No Wonder he Felt Like A Prisoner! 
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:38 pm |
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Hello FairyTale.
I agree with what you said and I also believe if Parker had not been able to exert such a huge amount of control of Elvis that Elvis sang what he was told. I wish he would have been able to say NO more often---like he did for the structuring of the 68' special. Parker wanted it to be a Christmas special and Elvis said NO and he stuck to it and I believe he was happy that his fans all still loved him and that he was right in standing up to Parker. I miss Elvis a great deal. So many people equate Elvis with Hound Dog and not the type of songs he sang and recorded after the 68' special. Be safe, 73smile
_________________ " In times of peace; sons bury their fathers, in war, fathers bury their sons."
Herodotes Greek historian 484-432 BC
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:51 pm |
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Hi Kids, I finally more or less "fixed" my on line problems- I got rid of Microsoft finally for good- it took some doing and time waiting for help, but finally got the right person and they cancelled it. I hope it sticks this time! Now Aol has to sign in on it's own and not fight over doing it.
Actually, the Col. sold off a big swatch of Elvis' recordings/songs and when he did that, then Elvis had to get permission to use them in concerts etc: and I suppose had to pay for that use as well. And he did not get any money for them after that and that left a big chunk out of royalties from then on. It was not a smart thing to do- but then, lots of things that were not smart happened and Elvis who was not involved by choice, in his career business ventures didn't have a clue. He believed what he was told by the Col. who had lawyers to back him up etc:.... same old etc;... So that is probably why Elvis was asking if he had "permission" to do such and such songs etc:. He had been told he couldn't unless they had arranged ahead of time etc:.
Our kittens have their eyes open- this time 4 males and 2 girls. The 7th one didn't make it- it was born with a cleft palate and harelip so it was not able to nurse very well. The others are fat and spoiled- a great variety of colors and markings- very unique and different from their aunts and one uncle, "Batman" who will now have a "Robin" to play with.
Going to read through some of the posts- I've missed out on so much! Luv, wjh
_________________ Wanda June Hill
author of "We Remember, Elvis" & "Elvis - Face to Face"
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:55 am |
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 Hi Wanda its So Great To hear from you, so in other words Elvis didn't really Have any say on his Music ? Did Elvis ever find out what the Col. had done by selling his Songs? So you have some New Kittens, mine welll be 2 years old next month. They don't stay Babies Long! 
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:04 pm |
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It's GREAT to be able to be on here!
Elvis had some control over things, often at sessions he'd be given a list of songs he could record etc: or that the Col. wanted him to do-mostly related to movies. Elvis hated some of them, and he'd do something else now and then - I think there must be songs never released still because of things he mentioned he'd done but wasn't happy with etc: that never came out. I'm sure we'd all be happy with them! Anyway, at the time the backlog was sold, Elvis needed money or so I've heard that was it- but I kind of think it was The Col who might have needed it- though Elvis could go through it easily and never realize it. I've heard various stories about why it happened, the money etc: and that Elvis didn't want to do it, but it was the "only choice" he had according to the stories, and the Col. got his way. He didn't get near enough for them either- at that time though, I guess there hadn't been that many new hits and so Elvis tended to believe it would be a good idea- money again. I wish he had been more into money and business and could have had a hand on things, but he just wasn't and didn't and got took in many ways. He trusted so easily, blindly alot of the time and due to his feelings of not being able to keep things together and having so much coming at him from all sides anyway- career wise etc:. He just wasn't that type of guy- some aren't and some are- he was more into being Elvis and getting out there singing and hoping to make better films...and then too, he liked to have fun and what else was money for except to spend on friends, helping people with less and making people happy? That was always his line of thought- can he be faulted for being a big hearted, generous guy to a fault? Sure, but if he hadn't been, would we have cared so much for him and about him still? Nope. Bye, wjh
_________________ Wanda June Hill
author of "We Remember, Elvis" & "Elvis - Face to Face"
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:32 pm |
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I agree with all what you ladies said! It is a shame Elvis wasn't able to sing songs that he wanted too! Its great to see you Wanda How the kittens? Our sweet beautiful precious love he gave everything he had and so much more!! He still is giving to all of us each and everyday yes that is why we all love him and miss him so very much!!
_________________ The spiritual light that I know You found is guiding me closer and closer each and everyday....... thank you, with all of my heart.
Talia
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FairyTale
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:52 pm |
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 Wanda and Mari, yes I do Wish at Times that Elvis would have had a Little More Business MInd. I read that Lisa Marie, found out that some of the peop0le around her that was suppose to be handling her Money took some from her. She said when she found out they were Fired, she also said that she knew that her Daddy didn't keep up with his Money like he really should have. So she wasn't going to make the same Mistake, I also think it was a real Shame that Elvis was kept from getting different songs because of the Col. But like you Wanda and Mari.But I wouldn't Still Want to Change a Thing about Elvis! 
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:45 pm |
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Hey They Loyality But Not to Elvis! 
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:19 am |
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Well, in the end everyone gets their reward for how they have conducted themselves - one way or another. I just about got cut off this forum by the host- as did Maia who didn't get back on...but maybe she will now because I did manage to get on their site and apparently, it's fixed for me. I have no clue what was going on- just I got the same message she did and she couldn't get back on here again. So If I disappear that might be it... but I think not this time. You know, one of the last things that Elvis mentioned was that he had a wonderful life, he had the opportunity to do the thing he loved, singing and seeing happiness on his audience faces etc: and he had everything he'd ever wanted etc:...and he had no complaints, and few regrets that mattered when compared to all the good things he'd been able to gather to him and his family. So we have to remember that if he felt so at ease with everything, we should try to see from his side even though it seems full of misery to us now. I guess that's human nature, I get really bummed out about things and wish I could have done something--- it sure gets the spirit down to do that though. Elvis also said that life was to be enjoyed, to find something to do to bring joy to others who might not have as much as we do etc:...he was full of those comments, yet he'd get down and "waller in misery" as he said once and I laughed at that word- "wall-er" and the way he rolled it out-Southern you know. We ended up laughing and he thanked me for brightening his day. That felt good- I had made him laugh- that wonderful giggling laugh of his. Let's dwell on that a while, okay. bye, wjh 
_________________ Wanda June Hill
author of "We Remember, Elvis" & "Elvis - Face to Face"
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:14 am |
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I know that he saw and did things that 99% of people never will, but I get kind of bummed that he got it all at once, so to speak. If only these wonderful things that came into his life came a bit more slowly, perhaps he might have felt calmer. I am just speaking for myself, but if all these things happened to me in a short twenty-four years, I don't know if I would cope half as well as he did. I am a Capricorn too and I know that I must have things come in an orderly fashion. I must be able to keep things organized and put things into their correct departments. If I had so many things flying at me all the time, I know I would go mental.
Elvis deserves much more credit than he gets for keeping so much order in his chaotic world. I challenge any of the MM to handle as much as Elvis did and not be drooling all the time. I also know that Elvis needed challenges, but lord, it's like he was dodging a million things coming at him all at once. I don't know, I am starting to babble here, but I am in awe of all the things he handled for as long as he did. A lot of people treated him like he was chattel and it makes me MAD.
_________________ Walk gently, speak softly and let the radiance of your soul speak for you.
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:08 am |
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I think you're right, Laura, about Elvis deserving much more credit than he gets. It must have been almost like winning the jackpot prize in the lottery/lotto - so much all at once................and he had so many people relying on him..........because, let's face it, where would they have been without him. If he had said "I want to call it a day", all those people who worked for him and because of him would have been 'up the creek without a paddle'. He knew that only too well and he took it all on his shoulders and made sure everyone else around him was looked after. Yet, as Wanda said, he thought he had a wonderful life and he loved doing what he got the opportunity to do..........it was probably beyond his wildest dreams ..........remember in his Jaycees speech he said he always wanted to be the hero in the comic book........... There's a passage in 'The Prophet' which says "And there are those who give and know not pain in giving, nor do they seek joy, nor give with mindfulness of virtue; They give as in yonder valley the myrtle breathes its fragrance into space. Through the hands of such as these God speaks, and from behind their eyes He smiles upon the earth." I always think of Elvis when I read it 
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Post subject: Re: They were His Songs! Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:58 am |
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Absolutely agree too! He was not even given grammys except for his Gospels - he thought it was God telling him what he should be doing- perhaps he was right about that because he sure could touch people through those songs- as well as other songs too but especially the gospels, and still does. He felt he had not taken the right path but didn't have time to go back and do it over, too many depended on his ability to draw a crowd etc: and sell things. That weighed heavy on his shoulders- and he carried it so well. wjh
_________________ Wanda June Hill
author of "We Remember, Elvis" & "Elvis - Face to Face"
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