Elvis - A Lighted Candle

[Hero]

One thing that I cannot understand is the sadness connected with Elvis' death. I don't get it. Why is he "gone"? Where did he run off to? Why would your Elvis ever leave you alone?

If it is a physical separation, I thought the great masters of thought and mystery from days past and present have said and will continue to say that this world is nothing more than illusion. "All things are impermenent. All things are without a self." (Is that how it goes?)

I personally would not want any of you people to believe for one moment that in order to see "E" again you must toe the line to some dogma you may have learned as a child. I don't quite know how to say this. I mean, that Heaven is only for those who act in the prescribed, socially acceptable way. Then Elvis becomes the carrot at the end of the stick, and that defeats the whole purpose of the man, doesn't it? That Heaven is right here, right now and you are damned well worthy of it!

So, in the end, why the sorrow?

[Rainbow Light]

Hi Maia

This may seem to contradict my tribute yesterday in the sense that Elvis' Christian beliefs seems to lead to a one way ticket to the idea of heaven above. However, he also had a wide belief in so many other spiritual paths and beliefs and the idea of the concept of God or "Somebody Bigger Than You and I" and the huge universe how can anyone contain Him in a little box?!! Elvis was into New Age beliefs also and guided to such books by Larry Geller of course.

You are so right in saying that Heaven is RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW!

I have been to Graceland a few times including last August for Elvis Week. I am aware that some people are sad because the grave site is located in the Meditation Garden but I can honestly say I have only ever found it a place of tranquility and not sadness. I guess it's because it is a place Elvis had specially built for him when he needed some meditative time, just to think or read one of his books. Because I believe in Spirit and a life beyond death, it is not sad to be there.
What do you think to this?

OK, so this is gonna seem wierd but promise I haven't lost it yet!
However, please stay with me?!

I relate to Elvis in a spiritual vision (that means I obviously can't see him in a physical sense) but as young, beautiful/handsome and free of any illnesses, sicknesses he may have had in his life. Dressed head to toe in white (similar to the "If I Can Dream" suit in 68 Special) but with a very strong, rich rainbow aura surrounding him, the blue and indigo colours more prominent than the rest designating his spirituality. I know, somehow beyond knowing (guess you'll understand, Maia?) that he's doing ok. I have been aware of this image of Elvis at least 3 times: twice at Graceland and once at home - know it sounds crazy but felt I needed to share it - hope it may be of comfort to someone.

As far as an afterlife goes, seems too black/white to say 'heaven' or 'hell', what about different levels and including like the Teachers, Ascended Masters etc? Know I'm going on a bit today but just sharing some stuff:

Just one last thing, love Egypt and actually went there last March. Truly felt a connection with the place specially Luxor/Temple of Karnak, could be I had a past life there? (not as Cleopatra or Tutankhamen though, that's been done too many times before!!! )
Wonder about the Elvis connection too: do you know if anyone found anything else out about this: whether he had any knowledge of the spiritual touch/new age belief of Reiki specially Egyptian side of it known as Sekh-hem/Seichem?

Through his music and our love Elvis will always be with us!

Had better finish for now, blessings and good wishes,



Sue

[maia]

Hero & Sue, I guess it is only natural for people to grieve over losing someone they love, and many people truly loved Elvis; but he has not been among us physically for sometime now. It is also healthy for grief to turn to fond, if bittersweet memories and to let the deep sorrow go. However, most of the people who grieve over Elvis' death did not know him personally, no matter how close they feel to him. I think this causes some of them to become a bit emotionally confused, as there seems to be no real closure with the years as there would be had he actually been in their lives like a family member or friend...THERE in the flesh on an everyday basis.

Yes, Sue, Elvis's spiritual beliefs were much vaster than the traditional Christianity, and yet that was his first platform of Spirit and he continued to honor and cherish it. I think that is why he was so drawn to The Self-Realization Fellowship, as Yogananda and his organization took Christianty and opened it like a flower to reveal the TRUE dimensions of it, which embraced all religions of the world.

I have been to Egypt as well...in 1997. A powerful experience for me!
For Elvis' feelings on his Egyptian connection read:

http://www.elvislightedcandle.org/theman/pyramids.html

[Rainbow Light]

Thank you for your comments and giving me another new perspective, avenue of thought to consider, much appreciated!

So very interesting to read about the Elvis/Egyptian connection especially re Pyramid of Giza and the letter Elvis had sent to 'Alice and Roy'. Many thanks for sharing this information and providing the link. At the time of reading this there is a program on television over the making of the Pyramid of Giza. He obviously had such a real sense of having lived there in a past life though it is sad and hard to think that Elvis seemed to have memories of causing such grief/bloodshed also to carry such guilt over another lifetime. Still, though something else to ponder on and consider!

However, even if this is truly the case he more than repaid his 'karma debt' and gave such happiness to so many in his physical 1935-1977 incarnation, wouldn't you say?!!!!


Through the love of Elvis


Sue

[maia]

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However, even if this is truly the case he more than repaid his 'karma debt' and gave such happiness to so many in his physical 1935-1977 incarnation, wouldn't you say?!!!!

I certainly would!

From my own akashic perspective, I saw that Elvis' soul was NOT responsible for these deaths in the past, but rather in that incarnation he trusted people he should not have trusted so easily, and as a result, a massacre occured. Sound familar? As Lisa said in the "Elvis by the Presleys" book: "My father fed to many rats to too many snakes!"

[Rainbow Light]

Absolutely, 200%! No specific names need to be mentioned in this regard but we know who we mean! Hadn't considered this as a possibility but now you come to mention it.

A few who truly loved and cared for Elvis' wellbeing but Lisa's comment? Yes, most apt! I can't quite figure out what to make of Lisa sometimes but she can come out with some great and very accurate quotes.

All for now.



Sue

[maia]

Concerning Lisa, Yes she loves him dearly and her soul is still aflame with his presence. She is troubled on certain levels...confused by differing opinions which were place into her mind in childhood (you follow my drift, I'm sure). But she knew her Daddy. Nothing can take away the real flesh-and-blood experience of him. If you don't have the "ELvis By the Preselys" DVD I highly recommend it, even though in my estimation it is far from accurate in some ways. But it has so much more than the TV version on Elvis' spirituality. Lisa comments in it that Elvis was absolutely the genuine article...totally HONEST. And that in person in his everyday life he was even more profoundly a beautiful being (paraphrasing this). When she says this her eyes get that intense "look". It is a powerful moment on film, as you feel as if Lisa is transfusing the truth of this into your blood!

In Lisa's letter to er..."a friend of mine" when she was 17 and 18 she was so very confused and hurt and missing him so much. I think she has gotten a handle on it much more now, with maturity, but that confusion and hurt is still there.

If you haven't read it yet, you might wish to read my review of "Elvis By the Presleys":

http://www.elvislightedcandle.org/elvis-bythepreselys.htm

[Rainbow Light]

I have read the book Elvis By The Presleys but not had a chance to get the DVD yet. From the comment yesterday regarding Lisa though and Elvis and also having read the review, I can see that I'm gonna have to use my work lunch-break to check the shops out tomorrow - so that's what a Christmas gift voucher can be used for - hey! At the moment will reserve review until I've seen it ...... watch this space!

There was an hour long TV special with parts from the Elvis By The Presleys some time ago, but even though it proved very interesting it was over before it had begun so to speak.

Re the review: very enlightening in many respects. There almost seemed to a kind of propaganda spread about Elvis (that may be the wrong word, not sure?) and his illnesses, etc. The majority of the guys round him and the Colonel seemed to develop this idea/theory and it grew out of all proportion, this seems still to be the general view today about him.

Re: Priscilla, think she tried to understand to a degree what Elvis was about but she was really quite a bit younger than him so a lot of it passed her by. I did empathise with Priscilla to a degree: what it must have been like as a young girl and to be Elvis' wife. Especially when she was at home and he was on tour; she is not beyond fault herself and we know this but then my goodness, what woman/lady would not have a vivid imagination what he was getting up to while away from her - the fact that he was simply one of, if not THE most stunning looking man that ever walked this Earth can't have helped I would guess!!!!!

While I do (regardless of many contradictions) agree with you, Maia, about Elvis having had cancer I can't deny it pains me to say it only because my father also lost his struggle with cancer 11 years ago this February. Life moves on and Spirit is there to help us but while Elvis trusted his doctors too much in one sense (it would be a worry if we could not trust our doctors one could add?); I would rather think that Elvis had the medication he needed to prevent any more suffering and pain in his life that he must have experienced than if he'd decided to just put up with the pain for our or anyone else's sake. Elvis and my father remain two great men in my life and always will, remembering them with love and admiration for what they both went through.

Don't want to end with a sad note though so will look forward to being able to share my thoughts and views on the DVD soon.

All for now on this topic. Any thoughts anyone?


God Bless - Sue

[Wanda June Hill]

Hi,

I haven't seen or purchased the Presley's CDs either-I saw a part of the tv show and that's it. As far as Elvis' illnesses...he had several and one of them was a blood disorder that was similar to cancer of the bone in that it caused pain, too many white cells and deformity of red cells and make him tired out. It's like that disease pernicious anemia and came through his family tree-the one he said he "came out of" so many times I guess. Joke. He also had liver, spleen problems that made too many white cells and kept him having low grade fevers quite often, thus his catching colds, flu etc: easily from people.

He also had an enlarged heart-failing him in the last year especially and thus he "bloated up with fluids etc" and may have had fluid drained from his chest and heart area at least one time-there were witnesses-at the hospital who said this. He also was border line diabetic in his last few years-had been his whole life but was unaware of it until it became more serious. And then too, there was his failure to sleep his whole life time-having to be worn out to sleep or take sleeping pills, which he resorted to often because he had to get some rest. He had a over active brain-constantly droning away at him, music playing, noises going on (crowds) and then being under stress with his career, lack of control over it, his many employees and their problems and concerns, his own families problems and his own wife and child problems.

Elvis didn't have a chance at a normal life, and he needed it badly. There were too many other people running things-and there really wasn't much he could do about it though he wanted to-would have could he find a way. He was the first, the biggest and earned a fortune in a few short years but he didn't get most of the money-Tom took 52 %, from Elvis' "cut" the costs were paid, what was left was his and tax mans. And he spent it on people, things and fun and always included his friends,people he might meet who were in need, giving away almost all of the money he earned until he had to go out and work to make ends meet-and then work some more to pay The Colonel his salary-Elvis was always able to do that-until the last few years when his health finally failed and everyone was running scared-what would they do if Elvis couldn't go out on stage? Any way, it was a rat race and in the end-
the rats one. As Lisa said, Too many snakes were being fed-too many rats.

I want to get that book and cd of the Presleys also-it will be a present for us one of these days! Haven't bought anything, book or otherwise since Kathy Westmorland's came out-that's a long time! Thanks for the views, Wanda

[Rainbow Light]

Hi Wanda,

Thanks very much for your reply and for enlightening me with some things I was not actually aware of and even those that I was, getting some new fresh perspective on issues surrounding Elvis. I seem to have learnt more from this site in two weeks than I have in ages from various people relating to and/or knew him!

I have purchased the DVD and will see it over the course of this weekend. Look forward to seeing Lisa and hearing what she has to say about her father.

While I have not obtained a copy of your book so far, I have read your words via this forum, in your section etc and it's obvious you were very close to him in so many ways. It's good to know he had true friends, people such as yourself who were able to understand him better as a person rather than the BIG Elvis Presley image.

For those who love Elvis dearly but did not know him like myself, it is a strong sense of comfort to realise he was able to confide and truly be himself with you. Everyone needs that in life at times don't they? but some more than most according to what they do in life and Elvis more than most I think.

Thanks for caring and loving Elvis, then and now from my heart and spirit.

Kind regards

Sue

[maia]

Hi Sue,

You'll find Wanda's answer to your above post in her Forum, post titled "The Elvis Letter.

[Strawberry]

Hi, I wanted to replay to the comments about Elvis' death. Yes, he was a very spiritual being while on this earth in the physical body. He touched many people with his music, voice and appearance-and he also reached a great many by personal contact, talking with and interacting with fellow human beings. When his physical body died, his spirit/soul remained "alive" "vibrant" and able to do the things he wanted to do when he was in the physical body, but could not do-I believe that he is now teaching, helping and comforting the people he cared so deeply for, his fans, his fellow human beings and that he is still here in spirit just as we all will be one day. He was a bit further along spiritually in the physical than most people in that he studied, understood and desired to grow in spiritual depth and understanding. He looked forward to leaving this life and being with his "idol" Jesus Christ who he said was our living example of what we should strive to be-devoted to helping mankind and to bringing peace and spiritual guidance to everyone on earth. In doing that, we all gain peace of mind, love in our hearts for our fellow man and knowledge that there is a hereafter-not necessarily the golden Heavenly gate kind of hereafter but something just as good-he said the teachings of heavenly gates and so forth were layed before the people as an example, an idea and something for them to look forward to and work toward because it was an "easy picture" to put into their minds-a simple example for everyone to grasp where as the more deeply spiritual would not be so easy for most people. He wanted to "be there for everyone coming after him" and I believe that he is-those who need someone like he was here on earth to be there waiting to lead them into the next realm-he'll be there, saying come to me, I'll take you home. he may be gone physically, but he's still here-his music is here, his memories are here and all we have to do, those of us who lived here with him, is remember and boom-he's here! That's the same way Christians feel about Jesus, just read about him and think about him and boom-he's here. It's simple actually, human beings, most of them, need something tangible and a way to find it-the Bible serves that purpose-it's a guide,
told in ways that mere mortals can understand more or less-and as Elvis thought, it's a how to manual for living among other people. That's all any religious book is-a guide to better understanding of life and it's problems and it's people. I agree. Wanda June Hill

[maia]

Wanda, you finally got into the forum! But as a guest? (I have been posting her messages as she couldn't get in.) Well, at least we are making some progress!