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Elvis and evolution 1973 (from Wanda)

Postby Blue Moon » Fri May 18, 2007 7:14 pm

I'm posting the below conversation on behalf of Wanda, who emailed it to me due to her computer troubles. ~~Laurie

73, early am, still not sleeping

Elvis: You think about evolution an’ all that’s be ‘in taught kids today-it’s so-so –jus’scientific bullshit! But people are willin’ to take it an’ run with it an’ don’t consider that God made the earth, the heavens and mankind, the beasts of the fields, the oceans an’ ever thing in them an’ He made the earth bear fruit so we’d all have food-even bearin’ fruit in the waters of the ocean to feed all those creatures. Now how can they defend their beliefs that we all just crawled out of a puddle somewhere an’ came to be what we are today? Don’t buy that-not even on sale man!
W. I don’t either but then I was raised to believe in the Bible and it’s teachings-many people of today have not had that groundwork, you know.
Elvis: But they got minds, reasoning ability and they ain’t blind or deaf! Just look around, how is it nobody is still e-volving-growin’ wings maybe or extra fingers an arms? Don’t that make you wonder? We got just what we had for the past thousands of years-we might be cleaner, better groomed an’ wearin’ better clothes an such, but damned if we don’t all look bout the same, men are men and women are women an’ the kids still comin’ from the same damn circumstances! Just look at the Heavens-they don’t change! Maybe some stars fall an we got telescopes to see things blowin’ up an all that but it doesn’t mean things are changin’ –they’re just goin’ on like they were intended to go.
W. What about the fact the earth used to be so hot, volcanoes every were and dinosaurs and big saber toothed tigers-\\
Elvis: That don’t mean they were evolving-it just means that God made the Heavens and the Earth and it hadn’t cooled down yet-who’s to say he didn’t do it with a big bang kind of theory? His word says very plainly that he made us from the clay of the earth, then he made woman from the first man’s rib-so she’s earth too. We got the same ingredients in us, our bodies as are found in the soil of the earth - ever’ animal and plant livin’ has the same ingredients…same chemicals! We are all the same-an we ain’t evolving! I got ten toes and fingers, two ears and so have you! Damn it, it just makes me want to to-stand up somewhere with a a microphone and a damn f….big speaker an shout it out to these people to get their f….eyes open an take a look a round! Gawd!
W. boy you are riled up over this one-huh?
Elivs: Was talkin’ to some college kids other day ‘n man, it freaked me really! They are so-so gullible an’ it’s not right! Only one of em had never even bothered to read any of the Bible-they think it’s just mythology and symbolisms an’ kind of a combination of things put together to keep the early day Catholics in line or somethin’ like that an’ to put fear into people so they’d not act against authority or do somethin’ stupid. In some ways that might be true-but that don’t mean it’s not the word of God handed down an’ that it isn’t true. Damn it, sometime, in my lifetime I hope, someone is gonna come up with proof that is so strong nothin’ can shake it. Maybe the comin’ of Jesus will be that proof…
W. That ought to do it!
Elvis: Yeah, but will it be soon enough to save these young minds here today?
W. What would you do if you could-other than shout from a mountaintop?
Elvis: Ehh…awww, don’t know if I could-but would like to- to-maybe go to some colleges an’ do some gospel concerts ‘n maybe could talk to ‘em a little-not much cause I don’t…don’t know that much either, but maybe if I mediated an’ asked God to help me, asked Jesus for his guidance an’ then would have the-the-inspiration to say the right things… make ‘em feel God’s almighty power…..Aww…don’t know really. Jus’ kinda confused my self as to what could do but I’d like to try. I’m just a singer…but sometimes feel…now don’t say nothing-- some times feel like ought to- to do more…like maybe should of- of been….maybe a preacher or somethin’….like I’m not-eh-not doin’ exactly what was intended. Gawd…don’t-let’s get off this…line of thinkin’…. I’m just a singer an’ I like doin’ it!
W. Doin’ what?
Elvis: Singin’…. (snicker) An that too…(laughs) You know what really get’s me goin’ is these young persons don’t think for them selves, ya know? They be willin’ to believe anyone who’s-who’s studied somethin’ and they don’t question it enough!
W.Isn’t that true of every generation?
Elvis: whose side you on? It might be, but it’s the older generation teachin’ the younger ones! We got to stand up for what’s right an’ we are not doin’ a good job of it!
W. I guess then those of us who see these things, need to set an example for them-right?
Elvis: Right! You know, I try to tell people…I mean talk with them an’ if-if-you know, they kinda listen, then sometimes want to tell them things. Sometimes feel they –they---this sounds silly….
W.No it doesn’t…
E.I try to see-feel-perceive- what is troubling them or somethin’ they feel or think an’ then give them somethin’ to-to cling to. Sounds crazy sayin’ it, but – (his voice drops off like almost a whisper) sometimes it’s like somethin’ in me reaches in an’ -an feels what’s on their minds-deep down, the secrets of their soul or somethin’. Scary at times…other times it’s-it’s emotional an’ I have to-to do somethin’.
W.Men too?
E.You know that -- usually it’s women…. yeah. Sometimes men, sometimes the fellas workin’ with me…it kinda scares them. Don’t want ‘em to-to think me. …weirder ‘n I am…an they already do ya know. But sometimes it’s just –just cookin’ an’ I forget not to-to-say somethin’ . If I wasn’t careful no body ‘ed work with me! Sure wouldn’t be alone with me! (Laughs) I’m a-a freak…really! You don’t know the half of it---of me!
W.Yeah? I know you have a big purple eye in the middle of your forehead and you sometimes see through it! Right through skin and bones-straight into the brain! Huh?
E. The heart honey, the heart….(laughs) Gawd…the sun is comin’ up! Oh lord…another day an’ I ain’t sleepin’ yet!
W.Two or three days?
E. Long days…wish all the days were just the evenin’ and nights…could make that okay. It’s the in-between that’s get ‘in to me, damn it. I need. …gawd what do I need? A whack over the head or somethin’…. maybe I’ll jus’ go run up an’ down the hall an’ wake ever body up. (Laughs)
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Postby Wanda June Hill » Fri May 18, 2007 8:56 pm

Thanks Laurie, it looks good. Also for correcting my spelling! Nice to have educated friends!!! yea! wjh
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Postby Blue Moon » Fri May 18, 2007 9:01 pm

Elvis: Singin’…. (snicker) An that too…(laughs) You know what really get’s me goin’ is these young persons don’t think for them selves, ya know? They be willin’ to believe anyone who’s-who’s studied somethin’ and they don’t question it enough!
Amen brother! Ain't that the truth. The kids of the past 50 years have not only the educational system portraying thoeries as fact but also TV as a follow-up. I don't believe we came from a puddle of goo either, though I think the earth is much older than is taught in many churches, and I believe the Bible supports an older earth as it speaks of an earth before this one. Plus, I think Genesis 6 speaks of a time when aliens did genetic experimentation on humans. I think originally we looked differently than we do now and that alien DNA has altered our appearance. I have a feeling that Elvis and I could talk about this for hours!

I love this part:
E.I try to see-feel-perceive- what is troubling them or somethin’ they feel or think an’ then give them somethin’ to-to cling to. Sounds crazy sayin’ it, but – (his voice drops off like almost a whisper) sometimes it’s like somethin’ in me reaches in an’ -an feels what’s on their minds-deep down, the secrets of their soul or somethin’. Scary at times…other times it’s-it’s emotional an’ I have to-to do somethin’.
This comment really gives us insight into just what a deeply spiritual & loving soul he was.
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Postby Wanda June Hill » Fri May 18, 2007 10:31 pm

I thought so also and then when I said "brain" he corrected me very quickly saying, "The heart honey, the heart." very imphatically and I have to say, in that very warm, soft intonation he would use in that voice of his
when he meant something sincerely. We, Jimmie and I listen (he likes the gospels) to Elvis cd of gospels every night and usually fall asleep before it's finished...And if he gets up to let his dog out (I finally am free of that chore!)
he will play it again and sometimes I will wake up and listen to Elvis' voice...he had the most fantastic range and the styles he used, and sometimes he sounds as if he is actually crying and knowing him, he probably was.
He told me about recording the first time his mom's favorite songs after her death and the army, and how he couldn't get through them easily, and had to keep trying. Finally just gave up and let it go he said. One of them was the one he did on Ed Sullivan just for her, he said. She told him to show them what was in his heart and that it was at the height of the bad things being said about and of him, and so he sang her favorite song even though they told him right to stepping on stage he couldn't do it-but he said, I told 'em it's my momma's favorite song an' she's gonna hear it tonight! and he did it. He said it "was the best thing he could have done-she never told me wrong"...people began to see him a little differently after that. wjh
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Postby Di » Sat May 19, 2007 7:23 am

Thanks Wanda and Laurie for posting.

It is almost like I hear him speaking with you Wanda. Maybe I do in my heart.

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Postby Rainbow Light » Sat May 19, 2007 9:25 am

Many thanks, ladies, for sharing with us here!

This is brilliant and so very interesting too!, it's great that he had you, Wanda, to express so many of his heartfelt views and thoughts with but that Elvis was concerned how those he worked with would be affected if he'd told them how he really felt about these things he talked about in such wonderful and true details!
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Postby MaryInTheMorning » Sat May 19, 2007 6:17 pm

Blue Moon wrote:

I love this part:
E.I try to see-feel-perceive- what is troubling them or somethin’ they feel or think an’ then give them somethin’ to-to cling to. Sounds crazy sayin’ it, but – (his voice drops off like almost a whisper) sometimes it’s like somethin’ in me reaches in an’ -an feels what’s on their minds-deep down, the secrets of their soul or somethin’. Scary at times…other times it’s-it’s emotional an’ I have to-to do somethin’.
This comment really gives us insight into just what a deeply spiritual & loving soul he was.


I agree Laurie. :D It shows that he always wanted to do whatever he could to help someone out and touch someone's heart to make them feel better. :D
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Postby Rainbow Light » Sun May 20, 2007 5:36 am

I agree Laurie. It shows that he always wanted to do whatever he could to help someone out and touch someone's heart to make them feel better



AMEN!! :)
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10/65 dreams of the past

Postby Wanda June Hill » Sun May 20, 2007 11:27 pm

This was done with a stick on phone thing-the tape is long gone but I had handwritten this much off of it. It's kind of on the same theme as evolution.]

E> Did you ever wake up thinking you had died some kind of really bad bloody way?
W. No-no never-did you?
E> Yeah-so real man, it was the-the smell of-of blood an' had to feel to see if had a -a wound. Felt that I'd been like maybe shot or somethin' big hit me in the gut. Had to feel-so real an the smell-gawd-was about to throw up right then 'n scared me. Felt-felt fear, smelled fear an had to run outside, man!
w. Wow you really had a nightmare!
E> Yeah-nightmare- something- it was so real. The blood feeling on my hands, the sticky feeling an then the smell-gawd-I hate smellin blood-specially my own!
(snickers)
w. Guess you were really into the dream.
E> And too-my-eh-I felt like it happened, ya know-in my body. Think it was more went back in-in time -in -in another life an was there an it happened-ever had one of them?
W. No, I've had bad dreams but about life now-what's going on at the time-not like yours!
E> Oh (silence)
W. So did it go fast-or like slow motion?
E> No-no not fast-got outside and thought bout it, tryin' to remember but it just isn't there. Outta reach.
I think maybe I been here before-lots of times maybe.
Kinda why I got ties to-to so many people an places kinda. I was here not long ago but -died too soon. It was an accident but serious like bein' poisoned maybe.
w. Who were you? Any ideas?
E> Not really that means much-an actor maybe-kinda think thats why I wanted it so bad this time an' it's not the same.
W. A guy?
E> Yeah-
W. Famous?
E> Kinda yeah. But it was on account of roles-not the guy himself like this time.
W. Oh-it's the guy this time-
E> Maybe-don't know why really-
W. Shall I make a list?
E> (Snickers) A list? Naw-it's okay...you know...
W. I can you know-a long one...
E> Snickers) Thank you...um glad you think that really, but.... (end of it)

He never said anything that I remember about thinking he might have been Rudolph Valentino, though we did talk about him briefly once in connection with Harum Scarum- Elvis was very aware that he looked good in that costume-even though it was a silly film and he and others in it more or less made up the script as they went along just to make it at least fun. I thought he looked great too-in fact it is one of the 3 pictures I have on my office wall-and it's a big 20 by 16 black and white that he sent to us. He knew I liked how he looked in that film so he obliged with a beautiful print...a studio print and not just a publicity glossy. What a guy. He didn't sign it though-darn him! (Never satisfied-gawd!) That's what he'd say when I would ask for this or that related to his movie publicity shots. I gave most of them away-I could kick my self now! But they went for a good cause-his fans. wjh
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Postby Sarena » Mon May 21, 2007 3:51 am

Wanda, that's again a very interesting talk between Elvis and you!!
As I read it, I remembered that it is possible for spiritually advanced souls (like Elvis) to "connect" - out of empathy - with other peoples' bodies (in a dream also) and feel in himself the happenings (being wounded in this case) someone else is going through just at that moment.
But it might have been a re-living of a scene of a past life, as Elvis said....
Thank you for sharing!!!!
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Postby Rainbow Light » Mon May 21, 2007 5:26 am

Yes, this is really so fascinating! Thank you, Wanda!
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Postby Elvis'SweetSweetSpirit » Mon May 21, 2007 9:51 pm

Oh yes thank you very much Wanda for sharing the wonderful talks between you and Elvis I do appreciate it very much! :D :D
The spiritual light that I know You found is guiding me closer and closer each and everyday....... thank you, with all of my heart.

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Postby MaryInTheMorning » Mon May 21, 2007 11:29 pm

I am so embarassed. :oops: Wanda, in my post above I forgot to thank you for sharing these very interesting conversations you had with Elvis. :oops: Please forgive me and know how much I too appreciate you sharing these with us to give us an even greater understanding of the things that meant so much to him and were so dear to his heart. :D :D
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Postby maia » Tue May 22, 2007 7:59 pm

I saw a "BIOGRAPHY" awhile back on Valentino. He was really a shy and humble man - good-hearted. Of course, in those days the real person was NOT shown to the public AT ALL. Only the flickering b/w on the screen and publicty shots.
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Postby Sarena » Wed May 23, 2007 4:15 am

Maia, could you maybe ask El'vis through your akashic knowledge and see whether he confirms having been the incarnation of Valentino!?
...would be interesting for all of us! :) 8)
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